I'm sure the Royals moved off Miller and Porcello late b/c they weren't really the targets. Signability was a moot point. I take the Royals' word on this.

I don't even know how to respond to this. The Royals have always signed their picks. Wow. Umm...ok.

First off, pick an argument and stick with it.

Second, of course Glass had some cheap drafts back in the Baird years. Everyone has noted this, including the man himself, but by all accounts the strategy has changed over the last few years. We never would have signed Moose under Baird, we never would have signed a 4th rounder for $1.25 mill, and we never would have signed Hosmer.

Enlighten me.

That Hochevar pick is going to haunt this organization for years...mark that down.

ROFL

So are the other teams that passed on Miller and Porcello "cheap" as well? Is every team "cheap" if they don't draft players and immediately turn around and bend over? Are you 8 years old?

I haven't started arguing another point, so I don't know what you're talking about. I'm surprised by your faith in management.

It looks like things are going in the right direction. I agree with this, but I'm far from convinced. As I've stated before in this forum, this year's draft marked a change from previous years and, for me, would be the first beyond-a-shadow-of-a-doubt moves that signal that the team is dedicated to winning.

Miller was still a top 10 pick and Porcello fell sure but you know, I think teams look at things stupidly. So he wants 8 million dollars or something teams routinely blow that on journey man middle relievers then act like it's a huge deal for a top prospect to ask for it.

Smaller-market teams need to make up shortcomings somewhere. Yes, lots of teams pass on players for reasons of signability. I'm tired of one of these teams being the Royals. True. Blue.

The fact that the Royals have "always signed their picks" is not at all relevant to this discussion b/c signability, pretty much since Glass has had major involvement with the team ('93 or so), has been priority #1.

Sure you did. You started off saying we shouldn't be confident in signing Hosmer because of Glass' track record. When I reminded you of the many above slot deals we've signed in the past few years, you then said you weren't sold on Moustakas and Hochevar, which has nothing to do with your original point.

The MLB is not the NFL - it takes years and years to turn a crap franchise around, especially when it's a small market team. We're doing the right thing by signing young and talented players instead of cheap ones, but it takes years for those guys to develop into MLB stars. Focus on the strategy, not the immediate results.

Isn't this the whole point of the discussion? We haven't done this yet. I sincerely hope we do. But we're debating the what-if-we-don't point.

Huh?

Your exact quote:

This was in reference to talk about Hosmer signing or not signing. How can you argue with a straight face that the fact we have always signed our 1st round pick under Glass is not relevant in an argument discussing whether or not we will sign this year's 1st round pick?

I am, but I also have no trust in the Glass family. I need much more evidence to believe in earnest. Again, the completion of this draft class would go a long way toward doing that.

I am 100% confident we will, and have been since the beginning. I guess some will continue to fall for the same old tricks from Boras, though.

I hope you'll be around here in about 75 minutes to admit how wrong you were.