My thoughts is that if we do trade him to the Giants....is that we'll get a conditional 4th for him.

Worst case scenario.....he gets traded to the Patriots and I have to hate Tony G.

That won't happen, IMO.

Tony knows the business side of things well enough to know Carl can't take a lowball offer just because he requested a trade.

I'd be a little upset about it.
Because I don't think you can do Tony a favor at the expense of the team.
If we had identified a valuable #2 guy I think this decision would be easier.

As a GM though I don't think you can go around doing favors for players (even players who've contributed 1 heart and 1 soul to this franchise as Gonzalez has) when it hurts the team.

Because we have no chance of getting anywhere near his value.

If some team was actually willing to give up a 1st or 2nd (dream on) then it would be a great move for both Tony and the team, IMO.

At his age, he probably brings, at best a conditional 3rd round pick.

You can't trade Gonzo for anything less than a first. He's worth much more to this team than just his play on the field, he's been the damn face of the franchise for a decade.

The PR hit alone, is worth a 1st rounder.

And I think this is where we might disagree. What's the value of a once great, now very, very good player who has 2-3 years left on a terrible ****ing team?

IMO, this team would be best served in the long run with receiving a 3rd. Again, this assumes you don't **** up the pick, and we all know this score...

Any PR hit will be neatly resolved when Carl is shown the door in a couple of months.

I think they could push a 2nd rounder out of a team that wants added punch towards the playoffs and possible SB

I'd hold out for the #1 or the #2.

I could care less about the PR hit. If people don't like it, don't ****ing watch the team. Simple as that.

But considering the team's he'd likely be dealt to, that 3rd round pick is almost a 4th - they'll be picking in the last quarter of the round.

According to Glazer, Gonzo's worth a 2nd and a 5th.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8...-be-a-bad-idea

What about the Giant's 2nd and 5th that they got in the Shockey trade from the Saints? It's basically Tony Gonzales for Jeremy Shockey straight up.

He's worth a lot more to the Chiefs than he is to anybody else. They're basically saying Gonzalez=Shockey, which is a goddamn joke.

At least Glazer is honest about it...

So as we approach another trade deadline that will likely come and go without so much as a peep, I've decided to spice things up a bit with my own personal view of activity I'd love to see come to fruition. None of them have much of a chance of happening and a few are definitely coming out of left field, but that's what makes my little trade fantasy list fun.

I would put his value at a 3rd and a 6th.