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OnTheWarpath15 10-15-2008 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5119173)
I value an elite DE right behind a franchise QB and LT.
And I think we know now that Herb Taylor would've been a suitable successor for McIntosh.
Besides... It's not like there were no other Left Tackles drafted after the First Round.



I'm guessing the 15.5 sacks that he amassed with a less talented supporting cast last year?
:shrug:

Oh, that's right. LAST year.

BEFORE he got PAID.

Micjones 10-15-2008 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5119191)
Oh, that's right. LAST year.

BEFORE he got PAID.

You're right.
I made the mistake of thinking he had produced BEFORE last year.

Chiefnj2 10-15-2008 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5119191)
Oh, that's right. LAST year.

BEFORE he got PAID.


He hasn't gotten paid yet. The Vikings built in safeguards should strike 3 occur. He only received about 15 mil guaranteed at the start. KC could have easily fit him into the cap.

They didn't and now they will have to burn an early draft pick to replace him.

OnTheWarpath15 10-15-2008 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5119197)
You're right.
I made the mistake of thinking he had produced BEFORE last year.

Does he get a special award for last year? The year before?

He got paid, and now his production has fallen off, though his surroundings suggest his production should be increasing.

Sounds like a guy I'd like to give $70M

:rolleyes:

OnTheWarpath15 10-15-2008 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5119254)
He hasn't gotten paid yet. The Vikings built in safeguards should strike 3 occur. He only received about 15 mil guaranteed at the start. KC could have easily fit him into the cap.

They didn't and now they will have to burn an early draft pick to replace him.

Or, they could do the smart thing, and use picks to improve that HORRIBLE offensive line we have.

Why is replacing Jared Allen a goddamn necessity when this team has holes EVERYWHERE?

Buzzsaw 10-15-2008 04:34 PM

I'm not a KC fan but as an NFL fan I think it's a bummer that Peterson didn't make the trade happen. Would've been cool for TG to get a chance to go to the playoffs with a different team this year. Plus, there's already some good young talent on the Chiefs, a 3rd could've netted another future starter a key position such as OL.

Edited: Poster above me made the same point about o-line with that pick, good call.

OnTheWarpath15 10-15-2008 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5119254)
He hasn't gotten paid yet. The Vikings built in safeguards should strike 3 occur. He only received about 15 mil guaranteed at the start. KC could have easily fit him into the cap.

They didn't and now they will have to burn an early draft pick to replace him.

Do those safeguards protect the Vikings from him underperforming?

Didn't think so.

If he stays clean he's going to be paid better than anyone at his position, even when he turns in a 7-8 sack season.

That's only $8.75 - $10M per sack...

What a bargain.

Cornstock 10-15-2008 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5119265)
Or, they could do the smart thing, and use picks to improve that HORRIBLE offensive line we have.

Why is replacing Jared Allen a goddamn necessity when this team has holes EVERYWHERE?

I agree 100 percent. We need to revamp the line first thing IMO(excluding albert and possibly herb) and find a replacement for Waters eventually. Maybe richardson steps up so we wont need to draft someone there, who knows. Jury is still out on niswanger i think

OnTheWarpath15 10-15-2008 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cornstock (Post 5119284)
I agree 100 percent. We need to revamp the line first thing IMO(excluding albert and possibly herb) and find a replacement for Waters eventually. Maybe richardson steps up so we wont need to draft someone there, who knows. Jury is still out on niswanger i think

Good post, n00b, and great call on Waters.

Hopefully the next regime won't wait until it's too late to replace him, like Vermeil did with the majority of his team.

They need to draft a guy THIS year, IMO, and plan on him being the guy in a few years (or less) when Waters hangs up his cleats.

007 10-15-2008 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Ice (Post 5119105)
Carl said it would take a 3rd to get the deal done before TG even opened his mouth. Carl set the price. Now the Chiefs are forked and at the end of the season Tony will possibly retire or request a trade, so teams interested in TG offer much less.

So tony is innocent in all of this. Got it.:shake:

ClevelandBronco 10-15-2008 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 5119297)
So tony is innocent in all of this. Got it.:shake:

Innocent? No.

I'm not even sure what role innocence would play in this situation.

Excellent at his job? Yes. He's the only one involved who could claim that.

Hammock Parties 10-15-2008 04:49 PM

Poor Tony...he could have gone to the Bills but that was just too far away!

007 10-15-2008 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 5119306)
Innocent? No.

I'm not even sure what role innocence would play in this situation.

Excellent at his job? Yes. He's the only one involved who could claim that.

QFT

I love Tony and what he has done for the Chiefs. He deserves a shot at his SB ring. However, he has ticked me off these last two years because of the me first attitude.

Chiefnj2 10-15-2008 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5119276)
Do those safeguards protect the Vikings from him underperforming?

Didn't think so.

If he stays clean he's going to be paid better than anyone at his position, even when he turns in a 7-8 sack season.

That's only $8.75 - $10M per sack...

What a bargain.

He was an established player on the Chiefs. But hey, if you don't think the Chiefs need a pass rusher I'm sure you are correct. Hali and McBride will be the second coming of Strahan and Osi in the 2nd half of the season.

OnTheWarpath15 10-15-2008 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5119342)
He was an established player on the Chiefs. But hey, if you don't think the Chiefs need a pass rusher I'm sure you are correct. Hali and McBride will be the second coming of Strahan and Osi in the 2nd half of the season.

Way to not answer the question, and completely derail the conversation.

You're quickly becoming the King of the False Dilemma, with a nice side of Strawman.


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