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TrickyNicky

10-20-2008 11:59 PM

Ok, I don't think we have all the talent yet. Our DT's and Corners are the only guys that I think we're somewhat set at. Every other D position could be upgraded. Derrick Johnson still disappears for 3 games for every great game he has. Sure, we should keep him, because he is still better than any other LB on the team.

beach tribe

10-21-2008 05:39 AM

Dick V. never trotted out a defense this bad.

That is grounds enough to fire everyone.

PRIEST

10-21-2008 05:45 AM

I am sure it's been said Herm Edwards is the Wrong Coach to rebuild this team or any other team .HE has to be the most incompetent Head Coach I have every witnessed ,hold on I will have to look at the tape & get back with you:doh!:

jiveturkey

10-21-2008 05:57 AM

I'm still fine with it. I expect that next year will be very similar. It's not pretty or fun to watch but it needed to happen.

The long term debate will be whether Herm can get us to the other side.

KC Jones

10-21-2008 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by PRIEST (Post 5137493)

You must not remember Frank Ganz as head coach.

cookster50

10-21-2008 06:34 AM

Rebuild = good
"Rebuild" under Herm = bad, as Herm couldn't "rebuild" a pile of dirt, much less a football team.

TEX	10-21-2008 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5136921)

What changed? This question isn't intended for those who wanted Herm gone for years. It is for those that embraced the rebuild when you first heard about it this offseason. I'd say half the board was excited about the prospect of a real rebuild. People were thrilled that the team was going to go young and most people said they would be able to deal with a bad year as long as the young players got a lot of playing time and showed some improvement by the end of the year.

I know the Chiefs have been getting their asses kicked, but if you were for a complete Herm rebuild, why have you jumped ship? Why is your patience exhausted after 6 games?

This is not rebuilding. This is a team heading into oblivion and saying it's rebuilding. There is no plan and no progress is being made.

whoman69

10-21-2008 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5136996)

Agree, but the fact that once he rides the coattails of the previous regime, he has yet proven he can build a team worthy of the NFL with his own players....

Christ his last 4 years would get most coaches banned from the NFL period.. 4-12, 9-7 (God's biggest miracle in the history of time, PLAYOFFS), 4-12 and who knows what this year is.. 3-13?

How can anyone survive that kind of stretch while showing zero adjustments or taking zero responsibility?

The President?

PRIEST

10-21-2008 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Jones (Post 5137513)

You must not remember Frank Ganz as head coach.

No I started watching the chiefs in 89. Herm is awful it's the Jets all over again wash rinse repeat .

Chiefnj2

10-21-2008 07:22 AM

I guess the most popular answer at this point is " I wanted to rebuild, and even though I expected a 5 or 6 win season, I'm really disappointed that we aren't losing by less points at this juncture."

Lzen	10-21-2008 08:07 AM

It's not just the fact that we're losing. It's that we look completely inept. Our coaching staff does not appear to have a freakin' clue.

patteeu

10-21-2008 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 5136939)

We've been worse than we should've been.

But that said, most football fans don't have the patience for a total gutting and rebuilding of the roster like we did... especially when you haven't won anything in forever, and have at least been "competitive" for about 20 years. I'm sure some of the people who always said for years that we need to have two or three top 5 picks didn't realize how bad the football would have to be to reach that point.

How impervious to reality do those people have to be? It's not like we haven't had numerous examples of the kinds of bad football teams who go through that experience over the years. The Rams of the 90's. The Raiders of the past several years. Detroit under Matt Millen. Cleveland. Cincinnati. Arizona. The list goes on.

dallaschiefsfan

10-21-2008 08:16 AM

I echo others' words. This isn't a responsible or well-thought rebuild. This is the equivalent of giving a McDonald's employee the tools and authority to build a highway. The highway is needed...and it's a good idea, but the drive-through guy isn't the person to do it.

Saulbadguy

10-21-2008 08:22 AM

You don't "rebuild" in the NFL. You get fired. End of story. There is a salary cap and free agency for a reason, too bad we refuse to take advantage of that based on the "fact" that we are "rebuilding".

patteeu

10-21-2008 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5136921)

Excellent question, Chiefnj2. It doesn't seem to matter what the Chiefs do. Short of winning a superbowl, bitching about the current approach, whatever it is, is the order of the day.

As for me, I agree that this rebuild should probably have started a year earlier, but I'll wait until I see what's happening in year 2 (2009) before I start getting uptight.

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