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Reerun_KC 10-28-2008 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5160909)
But they didn't accomplish the same thing.
ROFL

Not even close....

OnTheWarpath15 10-28-2008 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5160909)
But they didn't accomplish the same thing.
?

Running a upbeat, precise practice to accomplish your plans for the day is better than taking 3 hours to accomplish those same plans, correct?

OnTheWarpath15 10-28-2008 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5160922)
ROFL

Not even close....
I think some of you have confused a high school practice with what is done in the NFL...

Chiefnj2 10-28-2008 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5160937)
?

Running a upbeat, precise practice to accomplish your plans for the day is better than taking 3 hours to accomplish those same plans, correct?
Not if the the upbeat practice leads to poor execution on gameday resulting in one of the worst offenses in the league, whereas the long practice led to great execution and one of the best offenses in the league. Correct?

HC_Chief 10-28-2008 11:44 AM
Players, the vast majority of players, are Retreaded morans.

OnTheWarpath15 10-28-2008 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5160957)
Not if the the upbeat practice leads to poor execution on gameday resulting in one of the worst offenses in the league, whereas the long practice led to great execution and one of the best offenses in the league. Correct?
What, exactly, did those long practices do for the defensive side of the ball?

crazycoffey 10-28-2008 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5160957)
Not if the the upbeat practice leads to poor execution on gameday resulting in one of the worst offenses in the league, whereas the long practice led to great execution and one of the best offenses in the league. Correct?

If only it were all that simple then we could get DV back to run 3 hour long Offensive practices and get our O back. What has to be done to get a good D?

There are way too many variables for your analogy to even be considered outside of a fantasy realm....

mikeyis4dcats. 10-28-2008 11:46 AM
most of you are confusing the term "best coach" with "most successful coach".

Fish 10-28-2008 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5160976)
What, exactly, did those long practices do for the defensive side of the ball?
Not a damn thing but total destruction of confidence.

Chiefnj2 10-28-2008 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5160976)
What, exactly, did those long practices do for the defensive side of the ball?
The same thing as Herm's short practices. At least the O and ST's were much better.

OnTheWarpath15 10-28-2008 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5161082)
The same thing as Herm's short practices. At least the O and ST's were much better.
And that had to do with the length of practice, or the talent level?

I guess the Patriots practiced 4 hours a day during the early part of this decade?

BigRock 10-28-2008 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Buster Hymen (Post 5160611)
Anyone whos been to a DV camp, and a Herm camp, knows why players would prefer Herm. Players hate camp to begin with, but will always prefer the soft approach. Herm is soft. His teams are soft. His results are soft.
DV had guys going out for 3 hours to the point that Willie Roaf specifically cited DV's practices as the reason his career ended early. And Vermeil's teams were the softest bitches this side of the Pillsbury Doughboy.

Chiefnj2 10-28-2008 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5161095)
And that had to do with the length of practice, or the talent level?
Both. Why is it so hard for you to accept that according to the players DV had them run through plays until they were executing perfectly and that might have helped them execute properly on game day?

crazycoffey 10-28-2008 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5161149)
Both. Why is it so hard for you to accept that according to the players DV had them run through plays until they were executing perfectly and that might have helped them execute properly on game day?
and why is it so hard for you to accept that maybe practice length is only one part of a 200 part process for success? You are putting all your eggs in one basket, hanging on to just this one theory.

OnTheWarpath15 10-28-2008 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5161149)
Both. Why is it so hard for you to accept that according to the players DV had them run through plays until they were executing perfectly and that might have helped them execute properly on game day?
It's hard to accept because it didn't benefit the other side of the ball.

The defensive players were part of those same practice routines, yet they DIDN'T execute on gamedays.

It isn't necessary to run a 3 hour practice to be successful on gameday.

Ask any coach in the league.


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