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jeffp12 01-28-2009 08:09 PM

I really hope we don't pick Sanchez. I saw a mock where Sanchez fell to us in the 2nd round. How silly would it be for us to pick him so high.

OnTheWarpath15 01-28-2009 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffp12 (Post 5435847)
I really hope we don't pick Sanchez. I saw a mock where Sanchez fell to us in the 2nd round. How silly would it be for us to pick him so high.

Please link that mock.

I'd like to send them a message.

I'll have to send it in Braille, because they are obviously ****ing blind.

Mecca 01-28-2009 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffp12 (Post 5435847)
I really hope we don't pick Sanchez. I saw a mock where Sanchez fell to us in the 2nd round. How silly would it be for us to pick him so high.

Ok so because 1 dumbass has him in the 2nd round while everyone else has him in the top 10 you're going to buy that...

I'm telling you these noobs are getting bad.

Tribal Warfare 01-28-2009 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5435870)
Ok so because 1 dumbass has him in the 2nd round while everyone else has him in the top 10 you're going to buy that...

I'm telling you these noobs are getting bad.

I believe Hootie's reerun progeny must've discovered the internet

jeffp12 01-28-2009 08:52 PM

(CP won't let me post a url, but it's at nfldraftdog - dot com)

Has the chiefs picking Orakpo at 3, and Sanchez in the 2nd round. So, if we don't pick him, where does Sanchez get picked? He left USC early, only started for 1 year on a team that has a talent advantage over everyone they play and a stellar defense.

Mecca 01-28-2009 08:56 PM

Mark Sanchez in no way shape or form will drop below 17, that is the WORST case scenario.

You need to look at more reputable sites than NFLdraftdog, and really Brian Orakpo is someone who I would in no way shape or form draft.

jeffp12 01-28-2009 09:00 PM

You guys are pretty quick on the insults. It's not as if there is no precedent for QB's to drop. Look at Brady Quinn and Aaron Rodgers. They both fell a long ways when they were nearly top picks. And everyone says this draft class is weak on QBs. I think it's more likely that Sanchez would drop to the twenties and either get picked there or someone would trade up to that spot like happened with Quinn. When we have Thigpen who played pretty well for a guy who has so little experience, and a team that just set a record for defensive futility, I think we better be picking a DE or a LB. Why pick Sanchez when we could get plenty of other QBs, but it's not like there are a lot of available pass rushers. Why take sanchez when we can have Orakpo or Aaron Curry?

Tribal Warfare 01-28-2009 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffp12 (Post 5436144)
Why pick Sanchez when we could get plenty of other QBs, but it's not like there are a lot of available pass rushers. Why take sanchez when we can have Orakpo or Aaron Curry?

BPA, that would be either Stafford or Sanchez

Mecca 01-28-2009 09:04 PM

And now we're back to this Thigpen crap...

The QB draft was considered weak until 4 of the top 5 underclassmen who were thought of for next years draft declared. It's a horrendous senior class but with 4 of the top 5 juniors declaring that changes it and makes next years QB draft the bare one...As of today there is 1 1st round QB in next years draft and he's playing in the spread...that may change but it will at best be no better than this years next years will have big names that aren't great prospects..

And Brian Orakpo is a physically gifted player from Texas who doesn't always show up, I personally really detest the idea of drafting a Texas player..

And you're in the thread that explained why Curry shouldn't go that high, go find the last OLB that went that high...

Go listen to the podcast from Scott Wright I posted, he discusses QB's for this year and next year early on...

jeffp12 01-28-2009 09:08 PM

Well I think we should trade down in any case. Sanchez might be a decent QB if you are picking at 20, but I don't think so at 3. Everyone knows the seahawks want Crabtree at 4, so if anyone is looking for a WR they will be looking to us. I wish we could trade down, accumulate some picks and still get curry or maualuga.

Mecca 01-28-2009 09:11 PM

Enough with the LB obsession you don't take LB's with top 10 picks..and trading down is unlikely.

It's just so funny to see the absolute QB fear.

jeffp12 01-28-2009 09:20 PM

Terrell Suggs went 10th overall in 03.
Seau went 5th in 90
Derrick Thomas went 4th in 89
Peter Boulware and James Farrior both went in the top 8 in 1997. So if you can pick Derrick Thomas or Junior Seau or Terrell Suggs in the top 5, you pass because you don't pick Lb's in the top 5?

Mecca 01-28-2009 09:23 PM

LOL....Suggs played defensive end in college and would play end in a 4-3...Thomas was a rusher, there is a complete difference in a rush backer and say Aaron Curry..

The examples you are giving me of non rush backers are over a decade ago...give me the last LB taken with a top 5 pick...the only guys you gave me who aren't rush backers are Farrior and Seau...look how long ago that was.

It's basically been proven you shouldn't be taking traditional LB's or really LB's in general that high.

Mecca 01-28-2009 09:29 PM

read this....it's a common sense explanation.

3. Mark Sanchez, QB, USC
With Sam Bradford going back to school, this selection has become a lot more difficult to predict.

I have a feeling that a lot of mocks in the 2009 NFL Mock Draft Database will have Aaron Curry going here. I don't see that happening. The last time a player who wasn't a quarterback, running back, receiver, offensive tackle, defensive end or under tackle was chosen in the top three selections was LaVar Arrington (Redskins, 2000). I think Scott Pioli is a slightly better drafter than Daniel Snyder, don't you think?

Assuming the Chiefs go to a 3-4 with Pioli, Curry would be an inside linebacker for them. With trading down nearly impossible at No. 3 (no owner will want to trade up and pay tons of money to an unproven player in this economy), it's safe to say Curry won't be chosen.

So, that leaves us with the following options:

Best offensive tackle available
Michael Crabtree
Chris Wells/Knowshon Moreno
Brian Orakpo/Everette Brown
Mark Sanchez

With Larry Johnson still on the books, I think you can eliminate Wells and Moreno. Wide receiver isn't a prime need, so the Crabtree selection becomes unlikely. A left tackle could happen - the Chiefs would move Branden Albert inside.

Orakpo is probably out because he struggled against Alex Boone in the Doritos Fiesta Bowl. Brown is a stronger possibility if he has a great performance at the Combine. The Chiefs are likely to switch to the 3-4, and Brown, a nasty pass rusher coming off a huge year, would fit in perfectly.

However, I'm going with Sanchez. A new regime almost always equals a new quarterback. Sanchez is a hot commodity, coming off a brilliant performance at the Rose Bowl, sponsored by Kraft. The knock on him is the lack of experience, but going 28-of-35 for 413 yards and four touchdowns against Penn State pretty much quelled those concerns.

jeffp12 01-28-2009 09:39 PM

I think the whole "new regime = draft a quarterback in the first round" thing is silly. Look at the dolphins last year. Take the offensive lineman to build on, or take the pass rusher to build a defense on. The Matt Ryan/Joe Flacco thing works when you have a defense a line and a running game. The chiefs have no defense, a bad line, and a bad running game. we bring in a fresh quarterback with a fat contract and we might very well have a Joey Harrington/David Carr situation. Pioli was part of the decision making process that got Brady and Cassell late in the draft. Why do they just assume he's going to take a QB?


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