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beach tribe 12-23-2008 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by lj4mvp (Post 5323330)
Rubbish. Clark specifically said the new GM will have a strong input on the coach, so he's not going to go against that and fire Herm before hiring a GM, which in itself won't happen before mid-January at the earliest.
Maybe he meant he'll have strong input on the NEW coach, because Herm"s ass is gone. I know, I'm just lying to myself to make me feel good.

booger 12-23-2008 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by scooter (Post 5323341)
"Ray... Ray Farmer wants to see you in his office....bring your playbook."
Wonder if anyone played that trick on Carl recently

Frosty 12-23-2008 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by John_Wayne (Post 5323348)
Give me a break! The NFL draft is in April! :cuss:
And free agency starts in February, IIRC.

Amnorix 12-23-2008 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 5323037)
The Falcons hired Dimitroff before the Pats played in the Super Bowl, so I don't see any reason why we couldn't start to hear info on candidates and a decision within the next couple weeks.
Not sure if the Pats needed to give permission for that or not. Nonetheless, it's more than clear based on Dimitroff's statements that he and the Pats had a very friendly parting. It was also an obvious promotion for him.

Pats have argued in the past (for whatever it is worth), that Pioli is the GM and that the Pats would need comp for him if someone wants him. It may be a weak argument, but that's the rumor anyway.

Amnorix 12-23-2008 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 5323047)
I think it depends on whether or not that Pats make the playoffs. I think we will have a GM before the Super Bowl, and the Herm thing will be determined by then as well. GM once the Pats are done, HC 1 week after the SB.
Aren't you a bit overly focused on Pioli? :D

Amnorix 12-23-2008 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5323062)
But has to be people that don't have full control over personnel. I would highly doubt Scott Pioli has full control.
Pats have ARGUED it. Not sure it's true, but they have argued that they will need comp to have him.

King_Chief_Fan 12-23-2008 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 5323436)
Not sure if the Pats needed to give permission for that or not. Nonetheless, it's more than clear based on Dimitroff's statements that he and the Pats had a very friendly parting. It was also an obvious promotion for him.

Pats have argued in the past (for whatever it is worth), that Pioli is the GM and that the Pats would need comp for him if someone wants him. It may be a weak argument, but that's the rumor anyway.
GM's are open market. What will they do, refuse to accept his resignation?

Stryker 12-23-2008 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 5323445)
Pats have ARGUED it. Not sure it's true, but they have argued that they will need comp to have him.
Soooooo, WE get a shot @ him but surrender our first round draft pick - :cuss:

Amnorix 12-23-2008 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 5323137)
I don't know about McDaniels... Weis and Crennel haven't been that good. Really I don't think Manguini is that good either.
He's not. :D

Amnorix 12-23-2008 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 5323453)
Soooooo, WE get a shot @ him but surrender our first round draft pick - :cuss:
No idea what round Pats would be looking for. They might settle for less just to resolve the matter without going to arbitration over whether any comp is necessary.

eazyb81 12-23-2008 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan (Post 5323452)
GM's are open market. What will they do, refuse to accept his resignation?
Why would this be so different than when we gave draft comp for Vermeil or Herm?

Amnorix 12-23-2008 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan (Post 5323452)
GM's are open market. What will they do, refuse to accept his resignation?
You are incorrect. In general, if the person is under contract, then you can't hire them away without giving comp unless it's a promotion, which in the case of GMs means they move from a position in which they do not have final say on all personnel matters to one in which they do have final say.

You can't resign when you're under contract.

King_Chief_Fan 12-23-2008 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 5323468)
You are incorrect. In general, if the person is under contract, then you can't hire them away without giving comp unless it's a promotion, which in the case of GMs means they move from a position in which they do not have final say on all personnel matters to one in which they do have final say.

You can't resign when you're under contract.
we will promote him then:D

Amnorix 12-23-2008 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan (Post 5323471)
we will promote him then:D
As I've said, the Pats maintain that Pioli does have final say already, in that it's joint with Belichick or something. It's odd, but they've stuck to that line for years now.

MahiMike 12-23-2008 01:26 PM
Is this a race or something? I know we all clamor to get news every minute of the day but man. I'd rather he took his time. This is a 20 year decision - not a 20 day one. Let it marinate, dude.


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