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petegz28 12-29-2008 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5337562)
That means you think the Chiefs have some of the worst talent in the history of the game then because even 0-16 Detroit lined up normally.
Well, considering we just had the worst team in Chiefs history.......:hmmm:

kcxiv 12-29-2008 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5337554)
That's way to simplistic it requires a mix, you aren't gonna win the bowl with a great defense and a game manager offense either, reference the Chiefs 90s for that.
Ravens, Steelers and Buc's did it. They did have first round QB's, but Dilfer was already a bust. Brad Johnson was about 36 years old and been passed around, both guys were just game managers. Steelers were mostly a ground and pound offense as well and Ben was in his what 2nd year?

All 3 teams QB's were game managers though.

Mecca 12-29-2008 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 5337564)
Tell that to Baltimore or Pittsburgh.
Do you realize how good Baltimore's defense was? Also do you really want to build to be the 1 and done team?

kcxiv 12-29-2008 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5337572)
Do you realize how good Baltimore's defense was? Also do you really want to build to be the 1 and done team?
After 40 years, if the Chiefs could do it next year, i think 99 percent of the fan base will love it.

petegz28 12-29-2008 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5337572)
Do you realize how good Baltimore's defense was? Also do you really want to build to be the 1 and done team?
I would like to get the 1 before we worry about the done.

talastan 12-29-2008 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 5337580)
I would like to get the 1 before we worry about the done.
QFT

Mecca 12-29-2008 04:55 PM
I'll give those teams credit for taking advantage of the situations they were in. But right now it's gonna be hard to do that because there are great QB's there every year.

The_Doctor10 12-29-2008 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5337562)
That means you think the Chiefs have some of the worst talent in the history of the game then because even 0-16 Detroit lined up normally.
The chiefs lined up in the spread and didn't take the collar; what's your point?

The Chiefs talent at the skill positions isn't AWFUL; the entire right side of the o-line couldn't block a sea turtle in the middle of the desert.

Mecca 12-29-2008 04:59 PM
The entire premise of the spread is to try to use a scheme to even out talent when you are less talented because in college usually even the best teams don't go 4 and 5 deep at CB, in the NFL it let the Chiefs not get blown out but didn't net them any great results.

petegz28 12-29-2008 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5337601)
The entire premise of the spread is to try to use a scheme to even out talent when you are less talented because in college usually even the best teams don't go 4 and 5 deep at CB, in the NFL it let the Chiefs not get blown out but didn't net them any great results.
I know, our 32nd ranked defense had nothing to do with blowin 2+ score leads in the last minute of games.

The_Doctor10 12-29-2008 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5337601)
The entire premise of the spread is to try to use a scheme to even out talent when you are less talented because in college usually even the best teams don't go 4 and 5 deep at CB, in the NFL it let the Chiefs not get blown out but didn't net them any great results.
It didn't net them any results because they had an awful defence! Unless you want Tony G lining up at LB and D-bowe playing safety with Albert clogging up the middle, allowing dorsey to move over to left end, the blame for a lack of wins falls squarely on the defence's shoulders.

Mecca 12-29-2008 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 5337612)
I know, our 32nd ranked defense had nothing to do with blowin 2+ score leads in the last minute of games.
What I told you last week, happened again this week when the defense gives up less points the offense is worse...it's the entire team being bad not just one side.

smittysbar 12-29-2008 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by kcxiv (Post 5337373)
I tried to listen to KK a few min ago, and my god. How does he get that job? He's horrible. I had to turn it off. He's a douche to anyone that doesnt really agree with him, then when they dont, he goes, thanks for the call and cuts them completely off. lol I heard him say, if Stafford is gone you draft Bradford at number 3! You dont get scared, but you just pull the trigger. lol

Anyways, i rather just watch espn over listening to his ass and i hate ESPN now days.
I agree with KK 100% on this

kcxiv 12-29-2008 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 5337612)
I know, our 32nd ranked defense had nothing to do with blowin 2+ score leads in the last minute of games.
Yep, Mecca never acknowledges defenses. Only offense and if you can score on the last drive of the game. He doesnt care if the Defense is ranked 31st or not. I just dont get it at times. Defense defense defense. Defense just cant be corrected overnight as he thinks. We been trying for going on 9 years now.

Mecca 12-29-2008 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Unleash_the_Phury (Post 5337613)
It didn't net them any results because they had an awful defence! Unless you want Tony G lining up at LB and D-bowe playing safety with Albert clogging up the middle, allowing dorsey to move over to left end, the blame for a lack of wins falls squarely on the defence's shoulders.
Yea Tyler Thigpen is the worst 4th quarter QB in the NFL...the Chiefs offense in the 2nd halfs in general was complete garbage.

Explain to me why they could only score 30 points when the other team had 38 or 50? So then when the other teams got 22 or 16 they could only muster 20 or say 6.

It's called the entire team being bad.


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