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chiefsngop 01-14-2009 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by thurman merman (Post 5389704)
herm has had three chances. he had a chance in 2006, and his team choked on his incompetence in the playoffs. he had another chance in 2007, and he turned the team into a joke. in 2008, he had yet another chance for reasons unbeknownst to mankind, and turned the chiefs into one of the worst teams in all of sports.

teams like the jets and broncos fire their coaches when they win 8 or 9 games. yet the chiefs, who won 2 games, are sitting here with their thumbs up their asses.

i cannot fathom how anybody could possibly think he deserves another chance.
You cannot fathom it, because You have not been swallowing Carl's man juice year after year.

Bob Gretz is clear evidence that swallowing Carl's man juice has a side effect of making you an incompetent reerun.

the Talking Can 01-14-2009 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefsngop (Post 5389637)
Gretz is the guy that was sitting in the hidden spider hole with Sadam Husein, telling him "don't worry it's not over" ......
"...they should let you stay president...."

FringeNC 01-14-2009 12:25 PM
A lot of you guys are classless and deranged.

RippedmyFlesh 01-14-2009 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5389463)
Herm is a weasel and a virus that instills a losing attitude within your organization... I seriously doubt Pioli will surround himself with losers...


And if Pioli keeps Herm, then Pioli is nothing more than Carl redux and wont ever take this franchise anywhere...
The inspiration of my avatar.

Otter 01-14-2009 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 5389695)
Despite his reputation Belichick is a pretty classy guy. But just because he tried to cheer up Herm doesn't mean Herm deserves to or has a chance of keeping his job.
If you had to play Herm first game of the season what would you tell him?

alpha_omega 01-14-2009 12:34 PM
A Christmas card reference??? WTF kind of article is this???

chiefsngop 01-14-2009 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 5389722)
A lot of you guys are classless and deranged.
Yep, but Clark is on our side. :D

Dave Lane 01-14-2009 12:38 PM
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I have just the thing for herm...

keg in kc 01-14-2009 12:40 PM
There's nothing to be gained from not blowing the whole staff up.

shaneo69 01-14-2009 12:41 PM
Gretz Quote: "But there’s also little doubt that Edwards was part of the discussions with Pioli leading up to an agreement between the two parties."

WTF? So Clark invited Herm to sit in on the Pioli interview and negotiations and then give his approval of Pioli. Okay. God forbid this organization ever has to fire anyone.

I like how Gretz spends the entire article repeating that it's doubtful that Pioli will keep Herm but then gives us all this supposedly inside information as to why Herm may get to stay. It's articles like these that make me want to bludgeon Gretz with a pitchfork.

Talking Can mentioned that Gretz must be a big fan of failure. I totally agree. All this guy does is promote ideas and people that are absolute failures. Then he goes to the HOF presentations and the first thing he mentions to the voters is why Derrick Thomas was a failure at being a run-stopper, but that he belongs in the HOF despite that.

fuck you, Gretz.

chiefsngop 01-14-2009 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by shaneo69 (Post 5389766)
Gretz Quote: "But there’s also little doubt that Edwards was part of the discussions with Pioli leading up to an agreement between the two parties."

WTF? So Clark invited Herm to sit in on the Pioli interview and negotiations and then give his approval of Pioli. Okay. God forbid this organization ever has to fire anyone.

I like how Gretz spends the entire article repeating that it's doubtful that Pioli will keep Herm but then gives us all this supposedly inside information as to why Herm may get to stay. It's articles like these that make me want to bludgeon Gretz with a pitchfork.

Talking Can mentioned that Gretz must be a big fan of failure. I totally agree. All this guy does is promote ideas and people that are absolute failures. Then he goes to the HOF presentations and the first thing he mentions to the voters is why Derrick Thomas was a failure at being a run-stopper, but that he belongs in the HOF despite that.

fuck you, Gretz.

Herm being there was a negotiating tool for Clark.

He wanted Pioli to know just how much of a "clean slate" he'd be working with in Kansas City.

Bowser 01-14-2009 12:44 PM
I'll consider it only after Rufus Dawes has told me to.

RedThat 01-14-2009 12:51 PM
Hey Gretz,

Herm already got 2 chances. One with the Jets and one with the Chiefs.

Guess what? He brought both franchises into the pits and made them losers. What else more does he need to prove? A 3rd chance?

donkhater 01-14-2009 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 5389527)
Other than being a bad coach, there are a few reasons Herm staying would be very problematic:

1) He's lame duck, so you'd almost have to give him an extension for him to be credible as a coach. No way Pioli does that.

2) He's all about the cover-2. We're not going to be a cover-2 team anymore. How would that work?
Point #1 is exactly right. Pioli MUST decide Edwards is the dog he wants to hunt with. If he brings him back he HAS to give him a contract extension. Why?
If he doesn't and:

---KC gets off to a bad start (again), Herm is the definition of a lame duck and may even get the axe mid-season. Players are unlikely to play for a coach in that situation.

---KC actually improves and makes the playoffs. Now what? Do you re-sign him? Fire him after getting to the playoffs. No.

So it is quite simple. If Herm isn't let go, then he will be with the team a long time.

milkman 01-14-2009 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by shaneo69 (Post 5389766)
Gretz Quote: "But there’s also little doubt that Edwards was part of the discussions with Pioli leading up to an agreement between the two parties."

WTF? So Clark invited Herm to sit in on the Pioli interview and negotiations and then give his approval of Pioli. Okay. God forbid this organization ever has to fire anyone.

I like how Gretz spends the entire article repeating that it's doubtful that Pioli will keep Herm but then gives us all this supposedly inside information as to why Herm may get to stay. It's articles like these that make me want to bludgeon Gretz with a pitchfork.

Talking Can mentioned that Gretz must be a big fan of failure. I totally agree. All this guy does is promote ideas and people that are absolute failures. Then he goes to the HOF presentations and the first thing he mentions to the voters is why Derrick Thomas was a failure at being a run-stopper, but that he belongs in the HOF despite that.

fuck you, Gretz.
I believe what Gretz mean't to say was the Herman ****ing Edwards was a subject in the discussions between Clark Hunt and Scott Pioli.

I believe that portion of the discussion went something like this:

Clark, "So what are your thoughts on our current coach in KC?"

SP, "What was Carl on when he traded a draft pick for that dumbass?".


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