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SenselessChiefsFan 02-22-2009 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5516109)
Is there some new magic pressure that goes with being the #3 overall pick as opposed to the #10?

Did Roethlisberger take the field, at any time, breathing a large sigh of relief that he didn't have to bear that enormous top 5 risk?

I'm sure the fanbase would have been very forgiving because, hey, he was just a shitty #10 overall pick, not a "top 5."
Actually, Ben was drafted 11th. And, the team around Ben was better than the team around the Chiefs. He didn't have to be the 'savior'. There is a different mentality there.

DeezNutz 02-22-2009 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 5516116)
Actually, Ben was drafted 11th. And, the team around Ben was better than the team around the Chiefs. He didn't have to be the 'savior'. There is a different mentality there.
Oh noes111 11th. Even bigger difference. He didn't have the top 10 burden, which is great, but not nearly as overwhelming as top 5. Very sensible.

Who the **** is calling either Stafford or Sanchez a savior? This player would be a piece, an important one I grant you, but a piece of a whole.

But your true argument is starting to reveal itself.

Build the rest of the team first, and then add the QB, right?

SenselessChiefsFan 02-22-2009 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5516113)
Look how shitty that Ryan Simms pick was...

he was a very safe pick...
No, he was a pick that looked better due to the talent around him.

SenselessChiefsFan 02-22-2009 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5516124)
Oh noes111 11th. Even bigger difference. He didn't have the top 10 burden, which is great, but not nearly as overwhelming as top 5. Very sensible.

Who the **** is calling either Stafford or Sanchez a savior? This player would be a piece, an important one I grant you, but a piece of a whole.
If you honestly don't think these guys will be considered 'saviors' then I don't need to waste my time with you.

DeezNutz 02-22-2009 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 5516128)
If you honestly don't think these guys will be considered 'saviors' then I don't need to waste my time with you.
By dumbshit fans.

Just Passin' By 02-22-2009 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 5516111)
Then we dissagree. And, that is fine. I don't think you pay a QB huge money to ride the bench for two years in the hopes that someday he gets it.
At least some coaches and GMs feel otherwise, as Mr. McNair and Mr. Rivers can verify.

milkman 02-22-2009 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 5516128)
If you honestly don't think these guys will be considered 'saviors' then I don't need to waste my time with you.
You are the only dumb**** who thinks that these guys have to be saviors.

Hell with this fan base, the pick could easily be considered anything but a savior.

ChiefsCountry 02-22-2009 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 5516130)
At least some coaches and GMs feel otherwise, as Mr. McNair and Mr. Rivers can verify.
Palmer as well.

Reerun_KC 02-22-2009 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 5516128)
If you honestly don't think these guys will be considered 'saviors' then I don't need to waste my time with you.
yet people want someone like Curry to come in and save the defense...

doomy3 02-22-2009 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5516129)
By dumbshit fans.
This.

The problem is that there are a lot of these in the QB or bust crowd. It is a serious misconception to think that the only dumbshit fans are the ones who don't like one of these guys.

SenselessChiefsFan 02-22-2009 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5516124)
Oh noes111 11th. Even bigger difference. He didn't have the top 10 burden, which is great, but not nearly as overwhelming as top 5. Very sensible.

Who the **** is calling either Stafford or Sanchez a savior? This player would be a piece, an important one I grant you, but a piece of a whole.

But your true argument is starting to reveal itself.

Build the rest of the team first, and then add the QB, right?
No, actually, my true argument is that you need to pick a good player at #3, not a QB just because we all want a franchise QB.

I think Stafford would be a good pick, but I don't think he will be there. Even he is a Junior, but he has a ton of experience and has all the physical tools.

I know you want to pigeon hole anyone who dares think Sanchez might be a reach, but don't put words in my mouth.

milkman 02-22-2009 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5516129)
By dumbshit fans.
The dumbshits might say that as the #3 overall, that he better be the savior, but they're the same fans that will throw their hands up and rail against management and decide to skip games because he was selected.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-22-2009 03:51 PM
Anyone who thinks Aaron Curry is worth the third pick is a dumbshit.

DeezNutz 02-22-2009 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5516140)
The dumbshits might say that as the #3 overall, that he better be the savior, but they're the same fans that will throw their hands up and rail against management and decide to skip games because he was selected.
Exactly.

SenselessChiefsFan 02-22-2009 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 5516130)
At least some coaches and GMs feel otherwise, as Mr. McNair and Mr. Rivers can verify.
McNair was a decade ago. Rivers was a unique situation because Brees bounced back and Marty prefers veterans.

Heck, when Brees left, Marty still wanted him instead.

It isn't the 'plan' to have these guys ride the bench a year these days.


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