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Mecca 02-22-2009 10:37 PM

This is why guys don't throw at the combine and get advised not to.

milkman 02-22-2009 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5517257)
True, but it is just as absurd to say he looked solid today. If we are just judging Sanchez on his performance today, he failed. Luckily, that's not the case, but it doesn't excuse his pisspoor performance today.

Exactly.

Well said.

Mecca 02-22-2009 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5517265)
Exactly.

Well said.

The only thing that will annoy me about this is the people that will rip him and say this costs him spots and yadda yadda are the same people that will say Jamarcus Russell sucks, you have to pick a side on whether you think the combine matters to QB's.

Personally I think the combine means very little to QB's.

doomy3 02-22-2009 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5517270)
The only thing that will annoy me about this is the people that will rip him and say this costs him spots and yadda yadda are the same people that will say Jamarcus Russell sucks, you have to pick a side on whether you think the combine matters to QB's.

Personally I think the combine means very little to QB's.

Jamarcus Russell does suck. What the hell does that have to do with anything?

milkman 02-22-2009 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5517270)
The only thing that will annoy me about this is the people that will rip him and say this costs him spots and yadda yadda are the same people that will say Jamarcus Russell sucks, you have to pick a side on whether you think the combine matters to QB's.

Personally I think the combine means very little to QB's.

As I said elsewhere, the thing that matters most is his performance in games.

How he does on the Wonderlic and in interviews are the real important tests for him at the combine, as Hamas points out.

The performance in the combines on the field might raise questions, but he can answer those in his pro day work out and with his tape in games.

Mecca 02-22-2009 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5517275)
Jamarcus Russell does suck. What the hell does that have to do with anything?

He looked like a god throwing at the combine...that's the point.

Quesadilla Joe 02-22-2009 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 5516672)
most of that stuff is timing with the WR's and the QB, knowing the speed of the WR and how he breaks. Which is why the Stafford didn't throw.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/workouts Mayock says that scouts and coaches don't care about that. They are looking for the fundamentals like footwork, how they hold the ball, and how strong their arm is.

doomy3 02-22-2009 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5517289)
He looked like a god throwing at the combine...that's the point.

So, someone can't say that Russell sucks and that Sanchez potentially hurt himself today?

milkman 02-22-2009 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5517304)
So, someone can't say that Russell sucks and that Sanchez potentially hurt himself today?

I think the most you can say is that Sanchez didn't help himself to move ahead of Stafford.

Tribal Warfare 02-22-2009 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cutler7624 (Post 5517295)
http://www.nfl.com/combine/workouts Mayock says that scouts and coaches don't care about that. They are looking for the fundamentals like footwork, how they hold the ball, and how strong their arm is.

correct, which is why individuals shouldn't go apeshit that a certain QB does a good or bad job at the event.

Mecca 02-22-2009 10:52 PM

I didn't think Sanchez was awful or great I thought he was pretty much right in the middle...he showed good fundamentals and feet but missed on some throws and there was some bad timing going on.

It wasn't an awe inspiring performance but I didn't think it was anything that had a red flag in it.

doomy3 02-22-2009 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5517313)
I think the most you can say is that Sanchez didn't help himself to move ahead of Stafford.

This is most likely true, however if he doesn't look considerably better at his pro day, I think some serious red flags will be raised.

milkman 02-22-2009 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 5517317)
correct, which is why individuals shouldn't go apeshit that a certain QB does a good or bad job at the event.

But, it has to be a concern that he didn't display the arm strength that most of us that like Sanchez knows he has.

He didn't hurt himself as much as some people think, but neither did he help himself.

Mecca 02-22-2009 10:55 PM

I don't really think it's possible for him to surpass Stafford, Stafford is the one with the jawdropping natural ability, all of Sanchez big plusses over Stafford are things that aren't shown in workouts.

doomy3 02-22-2009 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5517344)
I don't really think it's possible for him to surpass Stafford, Stafford is the one with the jawdropping natural ability, all of Sanchez big plusses over Stafford are things that aren't shown in workouts.

Will you at least concede that he needs to throw the ball MUCH better at his pro day to realistically be a candidate at #3? I just can't see Pioli drafting this guy if he throws like that again.


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