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luv 03-01-2009 12:55 PM
While it's probably best for the player, they don't have to shop Cassel around before mking a trade, do they? What's to investigate?

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-01-2009 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 5542912)
I've heard people say this and it's absolutely ****ing ridiculous.

Does Marrioti actually believe that the Patriots willingly screwed themselves in order to satisfy an old friend? Last time I checked, the Patriots are interested in winning, not in making their friends happy. More importantly, this isn't exactly the first time a trade was nixed despite having another offer on the table. Players are constantly told that they can't negotiate with a team within the division and, like in the Trent Green trade, players usually choose where they want to go.

This is why everyone thinks Mariotti is a hack. Because he's a complete moron and everybody in Chicago despises him.
This, this, a thousand times this.

bdeg 03-01-2009 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 5542885)
How awesome is it that we pulled off a trade so embarrassingly in our favor that people actually want to investigate it?

If that's not the first real indication that Scott Pioli is going to be a fantastic GM, I'm not sure what is.

What a great feeling.
Haha I love it!

Tits McGee 03-01-2009 12:59 PM
NE made the trade to KC because KC dose not pose as an immediate threat to anyone, even with Cassel at the helm. End of story.

DaFace 03-01-2009 12:59 PM
I wonder what exactly they would investigate. :shrug:

wild1 03-01-2009 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by luv (Post 5543122)
While it's probably best for the player, they don't have to shop Cassel around before mking a trade, do they? What's to investigate?
more importantly, why can't the Patriots trade him to whomever they want for whatever they want, and why aren't they entitled to keep the reasons to themselves if they want to?

tboss27 03-01-2009 01:04 PM
Mariotti is an absolute moron. The two situations he brings up to evaluate where Cassel's market should have been were a trade for Schaub in which everyone agrees Houston overpaid for - and this one is even better - he brings up the Allen trade last year?? Is JA playing QB now, did I miss that somehow? Why the heck would you compare our trade for Cassel w/ trading away a DE? He has no freaking clue what he's talking about.

BradyFTW! 03-01-2009 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5542935)
It's a valid question.

How is it that Shaub was worth so much more than Cassel?
Because he wasn't locked up to a long term deal, there was absolutely no way he was going to be the starter this year, and teams in general wised up and don't offer 2 first-day picks for not-entirely-proven players anymore? An argument could be made for any of those things; you can't just assume that all situations are identical.

TEX 03-01-2009 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 5542885)
How awesome is it that we pulled off a trade so embarrassingly in our favor that people actually want to investigate it?

If that's not the first real indication that Scott Pioli is going to be a fantastic GM, I'm not sure what is.

What a great feeling.
But I still don't see what there is to investigate? Any team can trade with any team - so what's the big deal?

TEX 03-01-2009 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by tboss27 (Post 5543160)
Mariotti is an absolute moron. The two situations he brings up to evaluate where Cassel's market should have been were a trade for Schaub in which everyone agrees Houston overpaid for - and this one is even better - he brings up the Allen trade last year?? Is JA playing QB now, did I miss that somehow? Why the heck would you compare our trade for Cassel w/ trading away a DE? He has no freaking clue what he's talking about.
I think regarding Allen, he was pointing out that the Chiefs got way more for a starting DE than they had to trade away for a starting QB. But I still don't see how that matters regardless.

TEX 03-01-2009 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by wild1 (Post 5543150)
more importantly, why can't the Patriots trade him to whomever they want for whatever they want, and why aren't they entitled to keep the reasons to themselves if they want to?
This.

warrior 03-01-2009 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by tboss27 (Post 5543160)
Mariotti is an absolute moron. The two situations he brings up to evaluate where Cassel's market should have been were a trade for Schaub in which everyone agrees Houston overpaid for - and this one is even better - he brings up the Allen trade last year?? Is JA playing QB now, did I miss that somehow? Why the heck would you compare our trade for Cassel w/ trading away a DE? He has no freaking clue what he's talking about.


Good post---Welcome

Mile High Mania 03-01-2009 01:14 PM
I'm all for teams screwing other teams when it comes to trades... and if foul play exists, you have to look into it. That being said, I don't see anything here. Sure, I expected NE to get much more for Cassel via trade, but I really doubt BB would gift the Chiefs in this scenario just because of Pioli. Hell, why would they gift another AFC team? If anything, I'd expect the opposite to happen.

bkkcoh 03-01-2009 01:15 PM
Jay Mariotti is a :deevee:

Simplex3 03-01-2009 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5543014)
If it comes out and teams confirm that they offered a first for Cassel alone, or as reports say, a first and third, then Mariotti may be on to something. I mean, no matter how you cut that, something doesn't add up.
Unless those teams weren't also willing to take on Vrabel's cap number.


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