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SenselessChiefsFan 03-02-2009 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5546449)
If you put Curry and DJ up the middle of this 3-4 without a NT they are both going to die.

I know you think so.

Mecca 03-02-2009 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 5546499)
I know you think so.

I'd love to watch Derrick Johnson try to handle a guard, it would be good for laughs.

SenselessChiefsFan 03-02-2009 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5546488)
Agree 100% on almost every account.

3-4 ILB's essentially need to be nickel backers. I think DJ and Curry are both suited, Curry perfectly so, to be 3-4 ILB's.

The problem is that we have the #3 overall pick. I've said it before, we picked the wrong year to go 2-14.

Seriously, if the Ravens had the chance to take Ray Lewis at #3 and they had to take him at #3 or he would be gone, would they do it? I think so.

Would you take the defensive rookie of the year last year at #3? I would.

Lets look at another position... safety.

I would never want to consider a safety at #3 overall. But, if I am sitting there and I know Ed Reed will be Ed Reed, and I have the #3 pick... do I take him?

I think some players are bigger than the position they play.


I think Curry is one of those guys.

Mecca 03-02-2009 10:19 AM

The Ravens drafted another player over Lewis themselves...just remember that.

Chief Faithful 03-02-2009 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5546487)
He can't play outside in a 3-4, 3-4 OLBs are like athletic DE's he's not a pass rusher.

How do you know he can't pass rush he was not asked to in College? He has the size and if he is as athletic as everyone says then he should be able to handle the job. When I watch NFL network analysis every pundit thinks the guy has the ability to be a good pass rusher so why are you more of an authority?

My point was Vrabel gives them the flexibility to find out what Curry can do. Currently I'm more interested in BJ although that could change as I learn more about him.

Mecca 03-02-2009 10:22 AM

And here we go again when a guy finishes his 4 year college career with 9 sacks he's not a pass rusher.

Anyone who says without a doubt he can rush the passer is at best being dishonest.

SenselessChiefsFan 03-02-2009 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5546506)
I'd love to watch Derrick Johnson try to handle a guard, it would be good for laughs.

You really don't get it.

Now, for the record, I think Tank and Ron Edwards will see time at the nose on run downs. I think that is the only way to keep Dorsey fresh.

But, with Boone on one side and McBride on the other, the Chiefs will be able to occupy the offensive line.

DJ won't see many guards.

htismaqe 03-02-2009 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 5546515)
Seriously, if the Ravens had the chance to take Ray Lewis at #3 and they had to take him at #3 or he would be gone, would they do it? I think so.

Would you take the defensive rookie of the year last year at #3? I would.

Lets look at another position... safety.

I would never want to consider a safety at #3 overall. But, if I am sitting there and I know Ed Reed will be Ed Reed, and I have the #3 pick... do I take him?

I think some players are bigger than the position they play.

I think Curry is one of those guys.

Ray Lewis wasn't Ray Lewis coming out of college.

And I would absolutely take a premier safety at #3.

Mecca 03-02-2009 10:23 AM

Your concept of how to build a defense is so completely different than mine, you are expecting guys to just do things they aren't suited to do, that'll be fun.

DeezNutz 03-02-2009 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 5546532)
You really don't get it.

Now, for the record, I think Tank and Ron Edwards will see time at the nose on run downs. I think that is the only way to keep Dorsey fresh.

But, with Boone on one side and McBride on the other, the Chiefs will be able to occupy the offensive line.

DJ won't see many guards.

So the same crop of dog shit is going to be miraculously transformed in the 3-4? Are you kidding?

eazyb81 03-02-2009 10:24 AM

Are we going to have to deal with a new Curry thread every day now?

This shit is mind-numbing.

SenselessChiefsFan 03-02-2009 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5546531)
And here we go again when a guy finishes his 4 year college career with 9 sacks he's not a pass rusher.

Anyone who says without a doubt he can rush the passer is at best being dishonest.


And, anyone who says he isn't a pass rusher is being equally dishonest. Especially from a fans perspective.

Clearly, he has not demonstrated his pass rush much in college. That is not to say he 'can't' do it.

I just think he is a MUCH better fit at ILB in the 3-4. And, when he rushes the passer from the ILB position, his speed will be his most important asset.

htismaqe 03-02-2009 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5546492)
I still think if you wanted a ILB this bad you'd be better off moving and taking Maualuga who I personally feel is a much better fit for a 3-4.

Lauranitis could play in a 3-4 too. He's not nearly the player Curry is, but for value, trading back and taking one of those guys makes alot more sense.

Mecca 03-02-2009 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5546539)
So the same crop of dog shit is going to be miraculously transformed in the 3-4? Are you kidding?

He thinks all the Chiefs players are really talented apparently...it's pretty funny.

If you put Ron Edwards at nose in a 3-4 he is going to get killed and your ILBs are going to get flat backed.

Chief Faithful 03-02-2009 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 5546515)
Seriously, if the Ravens had the chance to take Ray Lewis at #3 and they had to take him at #3 or he would be gone, would they do it? I think so.

Would you take the defensive rookie of the year last year at #3? I would.

Lets look at another position... safety.

I would never want to consider a safety at #3 overall. But, if I am sitting there and I know Ed Reed will be Ed Reed, and I have the #3 pick... do I take him?

I think some players are bigger than the position they play.


I think Curry is one of those guys.

That would be a reason to take Curry. Plus, if he is that kind of player then he could handle playing ILB or OLB.


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