I thought it was just their first and fifth.

They don't have to wait until draft day to start preliminary talks, do they?

I don't think Pioli gambles with the draft pick in an attempt to flip him. IMO, his value goes down once KC takes him.

That was the rumor but I've read other places that say they didn't offer that to us.

If we took Sanchez, I would think trading Cassel would be more realistic. At least in terms of getting return on what we paid.

They do, and might be able to work out a deal ahead of time.

As for his value falling after he's picked, I don't think so.
Eli Manning's value didn't seem to take a hit.

What happens if the Chiefs take Sanchez, and the Jags or the 9ers take Freeman.

The Donkeys would be left with Kyle Orton, and the Bucs are desparate for a QB.

One of those teams will ante up.

Hell, I'd take the Bucs 1st, second, and Jeremy Zuttah for Sanchez.

Works for me.

That's what I've been saying only to get the response:

"That's stupid, we just traded for him. Why would we trade him?"

I know that if I bought a house last month for $250,000, and this month someone called me and said that they'd give me $325,000 for it, I'd be packing my shit damn fast.

Don't forget, Sanchez' value might go down after we pick him, but Cassel's might go up.

Exactly.

Hell, I'd take the Bucs 2nd rounder and Jeremy Zuttah for Cassel.

In a nanosecond.

ROUND ONE

1:00-1:10 1- 1- 1 Detroit Matthew Stafford QB GA
1:10-1:20 1- 2- 2 St. Louis Eugene Monroe OT Virginia
1:20-1:30 1- 3- 3 Philadelphia (from Chiefs) Jason Smith OT Baylor (from list)
1:30-1:40 1- 4- 4 Seattle Micheal Crabtree, WR Texas Tech (via PM)
1:40-1:50 1- 5- 5 Denver (from Cleveland) Aaron Curry, LB Wake Forest
1:50-2:00 1- 6- 6 Green Bay (from Bengals) BJ Raji, DT Boston College
2:00-2:10 1- 7- 7 Oakland Michael Johnson, DE Georgia Tech
2:10-2:20 1- 8- 8 Jacksonville Mark Sanchez, QB, USC
2:20-2:30 1- 9- 9 Cincinatti (from Green Bay) Andre Smith, OT Alabama
2:30-2:40 1-10-10 San Francisco Michael Oher, OT Mississippi
2:40-2:50 1-11-11 Buffalo Brian Orakpo, DE/OLB Texas
2:50-3:00 1-12-12 Cleveland (from broncos) Everette Brown, DE/OLB Florida St.
3:00-3:10 1-13-13 Washington Robert Ayers DE Tennessee*
3:10-3:20 1-14-14 New Orleans Malcom Jenkins, CB, Ohio St.
3:20-3:30 1-15-15 Houston Clay Matthews LB USC
3:30-3:40 1-16-16 San Diego Rey Maualuga, LB, USC
3:40-3:50 1-17-17 New York Jets Jeremy Macklin WR Missouri
3:50-4:00 1-18-18 Denver (from Chicago) Aaron Maybin DE/OLB Penn State
4:00-4:10 1-19-19 Tampa Bay Brian Cushing OLB USC
4:10-4:20 1-20-20 Detroit (from Dallas) William Beatty OT Connecticut
4:20-4:30 1-21-21 Kansas City (from Eagles) Tyson Jackson, DE LSU
4:30-4:40 1-22-22 Minnesota Peria Jerry DT Ole Miss
4:40-4:50 1-23-23 New England Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia
4:50-5:00 1-24-24 Atlanta Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma State (via PM)

* Denotes Commissioner Pick
1:00-1:10 1-25-25 Miami Hakeem Nicks WR North Carolina
1:10-1:20 1-26-26 Baltimore Kenny Britt WR Rutgers
1:20-1:30 1-27-27 Indianapolis Beanie Wells RB Ohio State
1:30-1:40 1-28-28 Seattle (from Kansas City) (from Carolina) (from Philadelphia) Alex Mack C California
1:40-1:50 1-29-29 New York Giants Brian Robiskie WR Ohio State
1:50-2:00 1-30-30 Tennessee Conner Barwin DE Cincinnati
2:00-2:10 1-31-31 Arizona Donald Brown RB Unv of Cincinnati
2:10-2:20 1-32-32 Pittsburgh Eben Britton OT Arizona


ROUND TWO

2:20-2:30 2- 1-33 Detroit Alphonso Smith CB Wake Forest
2:30-2:40 2- 2-34 New England (from Chiefs) Darius Butler CB Un Conn
2:40-2:50 2- 3-35 St. Louis James Laurinaitis LB Ohio State
2:50-3:00 2- 4-36 Cleveland Vontae Davis CB Illinois
3:00-3:10 2- 5-37 Kansas City (from Seattle) Larry English Northern Ill
3:10-3:20 2- 6-38 Cincinnati Eric Wood C Louisville
3:20-3:30 2- 7-39 Jacksonville Percy Harvin WR Florida
3:30-3:40 2- 8-40 Oakland Darrius Heyward-Bey WR Maryland
3:40-3:50 2- 9-41 Green Bay Ron Brace DT Boston College
3:50-4:00 2-10-42 Buffalo Jared Cook TE South Carolina
4:00-4:10 2-11-43 San Francisco Clint Sintim OLB Virginia
4:10-4:20 2-12-44 Miami (from Washington) Sean Smith CB Utah
4:20-4:30 2-13-45 New York Giants (from Saints) William Moore SS Missouri
4:30-4:40 2-14-46 Houston Patrick Chung Safety Oregon
4:40-4:50 2-15-47 New England (from San Diego) Louis Delmas Safety Western Michigan
4:50-5:00 2-16-48 Denver Lesean McCoy RB Pittsburgh*


Monday, April 6, 2009
(Round 2 continued)

6:30-6:40 2-17-49 Chicago Duke Robinson OG Oklahoma
6:40-6:50 2-18-50 Cleveland (from Tampa Bay) Josh Freeman QB Kansas State
6:50-7:00 2-19-51 Atlanta (from Dallas) Evander "Ziggy" Hood - DT Missouri
7:00-7:10 2-20-52 New York Jets Jarron Gilbert DT/DE San Jose State
7:10-7:20 2-21-53 Kansas City (from Eagles) Jonathan Luigs C Arkansas
7:20-7:30 2-22-54 Minnesota Max Unger C/OG/OT Oregon
7:30-7:40 2-23-55 Dallas (from Atlanta) Jamon Meredith OT South Carolina
7:40-7:50 2-24-56 Miami Lawrence Sidbury/DE-OLB/Richmond
7:50-8:00 2-25-57 Baltimore Paul Kruger DE Utah
8:00-8:10 2-26-58 New England Cody Brown, OLB, UConn
8:10-8:20 2-27-59 Kansas City (from Carolina) Phil Loadholt OT Oklahoma
8:20-8:30 2-28-60 New York Giants Ramses Barden WR Cal Poly
8:30-8:40 2-29-61 Indianapolis Jarius Byrd, CB, Oregon
8:40-8:50 2-30-62 Tennessee D.J. Moore CB Vanderbilt
8:50-9:00 2-31-63 Arizona Sen'Derrick Marks DT Auburn
9:00-9:10 2-32-64 Pittsburgh Fili Moala DT USC


Tuesday, April 7, 2009

ROUND THREE

6:30-6:40 3- 1-65 San Francisco (from Detroit) Rashad Jennings RB Liberty
6:40-6:50 3- 2-66 St. Louis Juaquin Iglesias WR Oklahoma
6:50-7:00 3- 3-67 Carolina (from Kansas City) Jasper Brinkley LB S. Carolina
7:00-7:10 3- 4-68 Kansas City (from Seattle) Shonn Greene RB Iowa
7:10-7:20 3- 5-69 Dallas (from Cleveland) Marcus Freeman LB Ohio State
7:20-7:30 3- 6-70 Cincinnati Victor Harris CB Virginia Tech
7:30-7:40 3- 7-71 Oakland James Casey TE Rice
7:40-7:50 3- 8-72 Jacksonville Mike Thomas WR Arizona
7:50-8:00 3- 9-73 Green Bay Andy Levitre G Oregon State
8:00-8:10 3-10-74 Detroit (from San Francisco) Chase Coffman TE Missouri
8:10-8:20 3-11-75 Buffalo Tyrone McKenzie LB South Florida
8:20-8:30 3-12-76 New York Jets (from Saints) Andre Brown RB N. C. State
8:30-8:40 3-13-77 Houston Asher Allen CB Georgia
8:40-8:50 3-14-78 San Diego Chip Vaughn S Wake Forest
8:50-9:00 3-15-79 Cleveland (from broncos) Rashad Johnson S Alabama
9:00-9:10 3-16-80 Washington Darry Beckwith LB L. S. U.
9:10-9:20 3-17-81 Tampa Bay Louis Murphy WR Florida
9:20-9:30 3-18-82 Detroit (from Dallas) Scott McKillop LB Pittsburgh


Wednesday, April 8, 2009
(Round 3 continued)

6:30-6:40 3-19-83 Green Bay (from Jets) Nader Abdallah DT Ohio State
6:40-6:50 3-20-84 Denver (from Chicago)
6:50-7:00 3-21-85 Carolina (from Kansas City) (from Philadelphia)
7:00-7:10 3-22-86 Minnesota
7:10-7:20 3-23-87 Miami
7:20-7:30 3-24-88 Baltimore
7:30-7:40 3-25-89 New England
7:40-7:50 3-26-90 Atlanta
7:50-8:00 3-27-91 New York Giants
8:00-8:10 3-28-92 Indianapolis
8:10-8:20 3-29-93 Seattle (from Kansas City) (from Carolina)
8:20-8:30 3-30-94 Tennessee
8:30-8:40 3-31-95 Arizona
8:40-8:50 3-32-96 Pittsburgh
8:50-9:00 3-33-97 New England Compensatory Selection
9:00-9:10 3-34-98 Cincinnati Compensatory Selection
9:10-9:20 3-35-99 Chicago Compensatory Selection
9:20-9:30 3-36-100 New York Giants Compensatory Selection

This looks like it went on for awhile. Looks like there was another trade. What are your thoughts on this return so far?

4:20-4:30 1-21-21 Kansas City (from Eagles) Tyson Jackson, DE LSU
3:00-3:10 2- 5-37 Kansas City (from Seattle) Larry English Northern Ill
7:10-7:20 2-21-53 Kansas City (from Eagles) Jonathan Luigs C Arkansas
8:10-8:20 2-27-59 Kansas City (from Carolina) Phil Loadholt OT Oklahoma
7:00-7:10 3- 4-68 Kansas City (from Seattle) Shonn Greene RB Iowa

That mock draft sucks........

Shonn Greene is an excellent pick at 68. English isn't bad at 37. Not a big fan of any of the other picks.

I wouldn't draft Phil Loadholt if he were the last OT left on the board and OT was the final piece of the SB puzzle.