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Mr. Krab 04-29-2009 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5724836)
I know people don't like the thought of going 8-8, but I learned my lesson on Saturday - we DO NOT WANT to ever pick in the Top 5 again.

I have this team going 7-9. I think a change in attitude and better coaching, along with the subtle talent upgrades we've made, are good for 4-5 more wins. I think we NEED to win at least 6 games to avoid the shitty scenario we had this year.

I don't know about that. Many times there are elite skill type players to be had in the top 5. This year's draft just sucked. Beside i think the next CBA contains some kind of rookie pay scale which will make the top 8 draft picks much easier to deal with and much more valuable in terms of trading.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-29-2009 04:19 PM

That'll definitely work.

htismaqe 04-29-2009 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's (Post 5726567)
I don't know about that. Many times there are elite skill type players to be had in the top 5. This year's draft just sucked. Beside i think the next CBA contains some kind of rookie pay scale which will make the top 8 draft picks much easier to deal with and much more valuable in terms of trading.

The next CBA won't contain any such thing. The players aren't just gonna cave like everybody thinks they will. They already get far less of the cut than players in other sports.

Next year's rookie salaries stand to be even worse than this year's.

aturnis 04-29-2009 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5726645)
The next CBA won't contain any such thing. The players aren't just gonna cave like everybody thinks they will. They already get far less of the cut than players in other sports.

Next year's rookie salaries stand to be even worse than this year's.

I disagree. I don't think any veteran likes seeing a first day employee making more than they do. Next years rookies are not a part of the players union. Who's going to speak on their behalf?

The less money that is spent on rookies, the more that can go to veterans.

htismaqe 04-29-2009 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 5727021)
I disagree. I don't think any veteran likes seeing a first day employee making more than they do. Next years rookies are not a part of the players union. Who's going to speak on their behalf?

The less money that is spent on rookies, the more that can go to veterans.

The players want a bigger cut of the pie - the vets don't want to take money from the rookies, they want to take it from the OWNERS. And if you don't think veterans use rookie salaries as a bargaining tool, you're kidding yourself. If less money is spent on rookies, the vets lose part of their leverage for bigger contracts.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-29-2009 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5724846)
We had needs at pretty much every position this last draft and it was still a problem. It's no longer about need - the salaries are so out of control that it's just not worth it.



I don't put in any stock in schedules anymore. Every year there's a half dozen or more teams that dramatically underperform or overperform compared to expectations.

I laugh every time I read about how "difficult" or "easy" someone's schedule is the next year. Injuries, player development, player regression and coaching changes will cause dramatic changes like they do every year.

Tribal Warfare 04-29-2009 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 5722620)
Good value pick. This guy has the potential to put Carr in the nickel spot.

or maybe FS

htismaqe 04-29-2009 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 5727118)
or maybe FS

Some of the scouting reports listed him as a safety.

soundmind 04-29-2009 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 5727107)
I laugh every time I read about how "difficult" or "easy" someone's schedule is the next year. Injuries, player development, player regression and coaching changes will cause dramatic changes like they do every year.

As do I, but you have to admit - at first glance, this years schedule looks hellish.

Tribal Warfare 04-29-2009 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5727250)
Some of the scouting reports listed him as a safety.

Their you go then

gta0012 04-29-2009 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by soundmind (Post 5727576)
As do I, but you have to admit - at first glance, this years schedule looks hellish.

Injuries or not I'm also an eagles fan and the NFC is never an easy division to play.

alanm 04-29-2009 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's (Post 5722751)
I'm not trying to be Debbie Downer, but how can i guy that athletic only have 3 ints and 4 pass defenses in his entire career?


Stats

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It might have to do with Ohio St's TOP. Maybe the defense wasn't on the field as long. Who knows? And as someone mentioned maybe they stayed away from him.


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