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mikeyis4dcats. 05-20-2009 02:54 PM

I don't give a flying **** about racing, but the OP is an idiot. Until recently hard liquor was not allowed to be advertised on television in any way. THAT was why it was not allowed.

Garcia Bronco 05-20-2009 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv (Post 5778929)
Like it or not, its classified in the sport, you can say its not until every single person hears you in America, but they still classify it as one.

Now, about the otehr stuff the OP was asking. Oh well. lol

It is a sport because they compete, but they aren't althletes.

Skip Towne 05-20-2009 03:44 PM

I don't believe any of you ****ers. Where's Dylan?

Mr. Krab 05-20-2009 04:05 PM

Yea, i think NASCAR should just let the drivers take whatever they want as long as it's a sponsor of racing. What a race, 32 drivers roaring around a 1/2 mile track drunk suffering from Priapism.

w00t!

GoHuge 05-20-2009 05:36 PM

I don't see the problem with letting these guys take uppers. Now downers would be a problem. I've done Coke a handful of times and I think I drove pretty damn good :).

Dylan 05-20-2009 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 5780434)
It is a sport because they compete, but they aren't althletes.

http://blog.highspeedweb.net/wp-cont...shit_again.jpg

Are racecar drivers athletes? Does sitting in a racecar for five hours in 140 degree heat traveling 200 miles per hour match the skills of an overweight, football lineman trying to catch his breath on the field?

After careful review of scientific tests, published in the "paper of record," I would say, indeed they are athletes!

:D

Bugeater 05-20-2009 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylan (Post 5781980)
http://blog.highspeedweb.net/wp-cont...shit_again.jpg

Are racecar drivers athletes? Does sitting in a racecar for five hours in 140 degree heat traveling 200 miles per hour match the skills of an overweight, football lineman trying to catch his breath on the field?

After careful review of scientific tests, published in the "paper of record," I would say, indeed they are athletes!

:D

Honey, it's not worth the trouble. :shake:

KCChiefsMan 05-20-2009 10:33 PM

poker, bowling, darts, pool and bingo are just as much of a sport as nascar is.

Dylan 05-20-2009 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 5780518)
I don't believe any of you ****ers. Where's Dylan?

I just woke up from a power nap! http://www.thedoor.com/vbulletin/ima...s/emoticon.gif

Dylan 05-20-2009 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 5781996)
Honey, it's not worth the trouble. :shake:

Hey cupcake! :D

Abba-Dabba 05-20-2009 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KC native (Post 5779652)



Are the tracks not circles? I don't dog NASCAR like a lot of racing snobs. The drivers are talented however their races are boring. The run two road courses a year and everything else is on an oval track.

I used to watch NASCAR every weekend so I'm not naive as to what it takes for them to run a race. I respect the drivers however I feel their version of the sport is boring. There are too many caution flags (which always seem to come out at opportune times for race leaders or when the leaders get too far out in front of the pack).

Finally, Juan Pablo Montoya sucked in Formula 1. He would compete on occassion but was never an elite driver. Look at Micheal Schumacher, Allonso, or Lewis Hamilton if you want to see a good example of an F1 driver.

Oh. My bad. You've watched it on Teee. Veee. You still don't understand circle track racing.

Hamiltoon is facing quite a bit of criticism right now. I really wouldn't use him as a example. F1 is in a tailspin at the moment. Even the future of F1 is in question.

JPM didn't suck in F1. Where the hell did you come up with that? He is considered in the top 30 of F1 drivers of all-time.

Dylan 05-21-2009 12:48 PM

For decades, Nascar had maintained an policy against hard liquor sponsorship. Nascar suggested that it was the right thing to do. While many know about Nascar, few know about their roots. Nascar changed everything -- sparing you the backstory. Nascar traces a tail back to Prohibition, murder and deceit –And the early racecar drivers that risked their lives running Southern moonshine.

I can’t write it, but I can cut & paste.


"Moonshiners put more time, energy, thought, and love into their cars than any racer ever will. Lose on the track and you go home. Lose with a load of whiskey and you go to jail." --Junior Johnson, NASCAR legend and one-time whiskey runner


Long before the sport of stock-car racing even existed, young men in the rural, Depression-wracked South had figured out that cars and speed were tickets to a better life. With few options beyond the farm or factory, the best chance of escape was running moonshine. Bootlegging offered speed, adventure, and wads of cash--if the drivers survived. "Driving with the Devil" is the story of bootleggers whose empires grew during Prohibition and continued to thrive well after Repeal, and of drivers who thundered down dusty back roads with moonshine deliveries, deftly outrunning federal agents. The car of choice was the Ford V-8, the hottest car of the 1930s, and ace mechanics tinkered with them until they could fly across mountain roads at 100 miles an hour.

After fighting in World War II, moonshiners transferred their skills to the rough, red-dirt racetracks of Dixie, and a national sport was born. In this dynamic era (1930s and '40s), three men with a passion for Ford V-8s--convicted criminal Ray Parks, foul-mouthed mechanic Red Vogt, and crippled war veteran Red Byron, NASCAR's first champion--emerged as the first stock car "team." Theirs is the violent, poignant story of how moonshine and fast cars merged to create a new sport for the South to call its own.



I'll come back to the story later.... I'm at work

Fairplay 05-21-2009 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Katipan (Post 5779339)
Anything short of a primary sponsorship would be worthless. I'm guessing 20 Million is pretty steep for an industry that just recently got out of the red. If they're even out now.


The saying it takes money to make money has much truth to it.

Fairplay 05-21-2009 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mojo Jojo (Post 5779374)
I don't think UFC wants to spend millions of dollars to be on the hood of a car for a few races. To be a title sponsor for 5 races you are talking 25 million in sponsorship dollars.

Well, other sponsers are doing it.

So apparently several think its a good idea.

Katipan 05-21-2009 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Fairplay (Post 5783853)
The saying it takes money to make money has much truth to it.

I think they've got a good grasp on their business model.

Why do you think Affliction only did it once?


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