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Chiefnj2 08-19-2009 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5985255)
Great numbers are numbers Johnson plays on the worst team in the game. There isn't a person alive that would take Bowe over him, that's not to discount Bowe it's just that Calvin is a freak.
I was speaking of Andre Johnson.

chasedude 08-19-2009 12:25 PM
As I said in my last post in another thread....

I don't believe everything I see on the planet.

Mecca 08-19-2009 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5985258)
I was speaking of Andre Johnson.
I don't think there is one that would take him over Andre either...

Those guys are just different animals Andre Johnson is a 230lb man with top end speed.

Mr. Krab 08-19-2009 12:28 PM
I haven't seen the work ethic and dedication by Bowe to become an elite receiver yet. Apparently neither has Haley considering the demotion. That said, we are not trading Bowe unless it leads directly to us getting another WR that we think is better.

example: Jets were going to give us a 1st and 3rd for Bowe and then we already had a deal in place to give those picks(plus whatever) to the Cardinals for Boldin.

No way to we go into the season without Bowe or another comparable receiver.

ToxSocks 08-19-2009 12:28 PM
Andre is much faster than Bowe, which puts Bowe at an obvious disadvantage for the comparison. Bowe is more of a Fitz/T.O Type. Andre is more of a Calvin Johnson/Randy Moss Type. Different kind of receiver.

Chiefnj2 08-19-2009 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5985263)
I don't think there is one that would take him over Andre either...

Those guys are just different animals Andre Johnson is a 230lb man with top end speed.
And yet with more natural ability Andre Johnson wasn't able to put up better numbers than Bowe his first two years in the league.

I think people on this board greatly underestimate Bowe's ability as a WR. The grass is always greener.

Titty Meat 08-19-2009 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5985126)
With Pioli in charge, I think anything is possible.

They have no allegiance to Bowe, just as they had no allegiance to Gonzalez. Todd Haley coached Steve Breaston, a fifth round pick, to become a 1,000 yard receiver along side Fitzgerald and Boldin! I'm sure he thinks he can do that again.

The Chiefs aren't going anywhere this season and if the right trade comes along (say a 1, 3 & a 6), Bowe's a goner.
That would suck.

Mecca 08-19-2009 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5985270)
And yet with more natural ability Andre Johnson wasn't able to put up better numbers than Bowe his first two years in the league.

I think people on this board greatly underestimate Bowe's ability as a WR. The grass is always greener.
Of course he got drafted by the expansion team with it's I believe 1st pick in the 2nd year..

Either way if you're picking WR's generally speaking you take the guy with the huge body and top end speed before you take the guy with just the body. it's no slight on Bowe it's just what you naturally have.

There's a reason Andre was a top 5 pick.

Titty Meat 08-19-2009 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5985274)
Of course he got drafted by the expansion team with it's I believe 1st pick in the 2nd year..

Either way if you're picking WR's generally speaking you take the guy with the huge body and top end speed before you take the guy with just the body. it's no slight on Bowe it's just what you naturally have.

There's a reason Andre was a top 5 pick.
Bowe should have been a top 10 pick too. Theres a reason Miamis GM/Coach aren't there anymore.

the Talking Can 08-19-2009 12:34 PM
just listened to a jet's beat reporter who didn't think there was anything to this...

Mecca 08-19-2009 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by billay (Post 5985280)
Bowe should have been a top 10 pick too. Theres a reason Miamis GM/Coach aren't there anymore.
Eh Miami gets blasted for passing on the QB, Bowe was generally projected right around where he went, he was projected to the Chiefs numerous times.

Titty Meat 08-19-2009 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5985286)
Eh Miami gets blasted for passing on the QB, Bowe was generally projected right around where he went, he was projected to the Chiefs numerous times.
Bowe > Ginn. It seemed like alot of fans weren't happy with the Bowe pick, he's really a stud though. I think trading him would be a mistake and a great way to get Cassel hurt. A bad o-line+ Wr's that don't get open= injured QB. Was the QB Brady Quinn? Yea I don't know about Brady either he's good and the Browns are stupid or he didn't get draft til late for a reason.

King_Chief_Fan 08-19-2009 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5984951)
So you basically flip Bowe for Boldin and end up paying a lot more money?
Boldin > Bowe

Mecca 08-19-2009 12:39 PM
Yea well they should have taken Quinn...and Ted Ginn wasn't projected that high either.

jaa1025 08-19-2009 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan (Post 5985305)
Boldin > Bowe
Bowe+Age>Boldin+Age

Bowe can be great if Haley can do what he did with Fitzgerald...and thats exactly what it seems he's trying to do.


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