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Rooster 08-26-2009 03:07 PM

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Chief Pote 08-26-2009 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Pneuma (Post 6003151)
No.1 - Kansas City Chiefs trade for Matt Cassel

A silent alarm should have sounded for the Chiefs when the New England Patriots sold off “franchise” Matt Cassel for such a cheap price. Getting good value from Bill Belichick is like getting a good deal from a greasy used-car salesman: you’re lucky if you get what you pay for.

Cassel looked shiny and nice while he was on Belichick’s lot, but so have many players. Belichick makes his squad into overachievers and then sells high, only to see his parts fail elsewhere. See: Deion Branch, David Givens and Ty Law.

The Chiefs also signed Cassel to the richest contract in franchise history before he even played a snap, which may have been premature. A simple six-month test drive wouldn’t have hurt.

He has ”bust” written all over him and his early struggles in training camp are just the early evidence that the Chiefs got a lemon.

http://www.askmen.com/top_10/sports/...decisions.html

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While I don't agree with the long term signing, I don't think it deserves #1.

You should be neg repped for posting this shit from a joke writer. :evil:

Just Passin' By 08-26-2009 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6003368)
Really, cause the NE assistants aren't arrogant?

The only one that has succeeded is the one who didn't trade for a QB or make his team switch to 3-4 or start talking about Patriot way bullshit.

Crennel's struggles weren't because he was arrogant.
Weis isn't in the NFL, but won early when he had good players.
McDaniels' team hasn't even played a real game yet.

Mecca 08-26-2009 03:10 PM

If you think Notre Dame has bad players I beg you to go look at their recruiting classes.

KCrockaholic 08-26-2009 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6003427)
If you think Notre Dame has bad players I beg you to go look at their recruiting classes.

Lou Holtz already has his head up Jimmy Clausens anus.

Just Passin' By 08-26-2009 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6003427)
If you think Notre Dame has bad players I beg you to go look at their recruiting classes.

Ty's last recruiting classes were absolute horseshit.

KCrockaholic 08-26-2009 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 6003441)
Ty's last recruiting classes were absolute horseshit.

This years class is lookin pretty nice for ND.

Meccas got you beat on the NE assistant arguement.

WildTurkey 08-26-2009 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 6003421)
Crennel's struggles weren't because he was arrogant.
Weis isn't in the NFL, but won early when he had good players.
McDaniels' team hasn't even played a real game yet.

and all of those were coaches, so far the one front office guy who has moved on has done pretty well for himself, and we hired his former boss, so I fail to see how Crennel, Mangina and McKid sucking as coaches (McKid..TBD) has anything to do with Pioli....

DaWolf 08-26-2009 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6003368)
Really, cause the NE assistants aren't arrogant?

The only one that has succeeded is the one who didn't trade for a QB or make his team switch to 3-4 or start talking about Patriot way bullshit.

Come on, Dimitrioff has talked about the "Patriot Way" a lot if you actually listen to him talking. For example:

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And so I asked him this morning: What do you take from New England coach Bill Belichick and VP of player personnel Scott Pioli into your new job?

"Bill and Scott had this philosophy, and you've heard it,'' said Dimitroff, who seems to delight in walking the halls here very far under the radar. " 'Do your job.' It falls in line with their team concept, and I think it works very well as an organizational philosophy. If everybody does what they do to the best of their ability without worrying about anybody else, we're going to get the job done collectively.

"The second thing I take from New England is system-specific scouting. You grade players for your own team, not for the how others in the league might see them. It doesn't matter if we have a player graded as a first-rounder and some other team has him in the sixth. You have to have the courage of your convictions and know you might have different needs with different kinds of players than other teams.

"The thing about Bill and Scott that I admired about their relationship is how honest they could be in their discussions about players. If they were at loggerheads on a player, they'd move on to another player, because they trusted each other's opinion so much. And I appreciated how they'd use different ways to build their team. Just when you think you've got them figured out -- you know, the 'Patriot Way' -- they'd pull something you wouldn't expect.''

"Like the Randy Moss deal?'' I asked.

"Yeah,'' he said. "Like building their team whatever way it took to win. Being flexible. Being adaptable. There are some guys in the business who say, 'These are my draft picks, and we're staying right where we are and we're making the picks.' You might think that breeds confidence in the organization. But what I think it does is breed hesitation.''

Hesitation to change when change is the right thing, he meant.
You take that quote and match it up with anything Pioli has said and it's the same thing.

Second, as far as the QB, you can't compare Matt Ryan to Sanchez yet. Ryan was a senior starter and they had a lot more info on him at the time. Plus, the franchise had just been rocked by the Vick thing and they needed a new face of the franchise, and you'd be fooling yourself if you didn't think that Arthur Blank wasn't pushing them to pick the QB, especially after listening to Blank in the offseason...

Pitt Gorilla 08-26-2009 03:57 PM

The Cassel deal was a steal. He will be very good.

Ultra Peanut 08-26-2009 04:13 PM

I'm sorry, but there is no ****ing way that trading for and overpaying a decent QB is dumber than offending a franchise QB with a full decade ahead of him to the point that you have to trade him and FAILING to acquire aforementioned decent QB in the process.

Red Dawg 08-26-2009 04:15 PM

So over night Scott has gone from the most respected NFL man to a stupid NFL front man because Matt has "so called" looked bad in practice? What a joke.

Hammock Parties 08-26-2009 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 6003641)
So over night Scott has gone from the most respected NFL man to a stupid NFL front man because Matt has "so called" looked bad in practice? What a joke.

DAVE GOLOKHOV SUCKS

SenselessChiefsFan 08-26-2009 04:28 PM

Wow.... two months ago, it was one of the 'best' moves.

Now, this guy thinks it's one of the worst.

Sorry, but the trade for Cassel was a good move.

The contract he got is barely above average for a starting QB. So, the contract wasn't a bad move.

The Chiefs were on the hook for 14 million anyways.

If Cassel had had a good year, the Chiefs would have to pay much more than that..... or franchise him again, which would have given him the same amount over two years that is currently guaranteed.

The Jared Allen situation developed because the Chiefs lacked the forethought to lock him up before his contract was up.

Just because the old regime thought it was great to let the players get to a contract year and let negotiations hit an impasse before actually trying to work a deal, doesn't mean that is what the smart teams do.

Now, the Chiefs are way under the cap. Pioli knows Cassel. The other person who knows him is McDaniels.... who also tried to get him.

The Pats didn't want to pay the $14 million. The Chiefs offered less than what the Broncos and Lions were going to offer, but the Chiefs jumped quickly and the Pats wanted the deal done.

This may be a stupid move down the line, but very few could look at this objectively and call it one of the top ten worst moves in the NFL offseason.

DBOSHO 08-26-2009 04:28 PM

Apparently they dont follow the Donks that well...


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