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Sweet Daddy Hate 10-05-2009 08:12 AM

It's not the losses, it's the performance during them.

And if anyone has a ****ing problem with that take, you can absolutely go **** yourself.

Hammock Parties 10-05-2009 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 6140968)
It's not the losses, it's the performance during them.


27-16 is better than 34-0

TrebMaxx 10-05-2009 08:18 AM

It does amaze me what some CP'ers expectations for this team has been around here. The cupboard was bare when Pioli and Haley took the reigns of this team. Rome wasn't built in a day and neither will this team. The only disappointment thus far for me was the Oakland game. The other three I expected a loss.

OnTheWarpath15 10-05-2009 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6140978)
27-16 is better than 34-0

When you take into consideration that the 34-0 game was played on the road, with the 3rd string QB, and not at home, with a supposed franchise QB, as the 27-16 game was, is it really better?

bobbything 10-05-2009 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 6140968)
It's not the losses, it's the performance during them.

And if anyone has a ****ing problem with that take, you can absolutely go **** yourself.

This.

4 regular season games. 4 preseason games. 8 total games on which to improve and I've seen nothing. I've seen the defense play good at times all year. But, I haven't seen any real improvement. I've seen the offense suck in all aspects all year. They mount one good drive a game. That's it.

I'd expect some kind of improvement in this time. I guess the O-line didn't play as horrible as they have been. So, that's a plus.

Getting a TD when you're down 27-3 in the 3rd quarter doesn't really make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. And having to convert two 4th and longs in the process doesn't really help. It took a pass interference call, defensive holding call, 6 plays, -4 yards from the 1, and a (what appeared to be) overthrown pass to the wrong player to score a TD.

Ugh. It's ugly.

Hammock Parties 10-05-2009 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by bobbything (Post 6140985)
This.

4 regular season games. 4 preseason games. 8 total games on which to improve and I've seen nothing. I've seen the defense play good at times all year. But, I haven't seen any real improvement.

This team takes baby steps every week. Remember when we couldn't get a first down in Baltimore?

I think we've definitely improved. Playing against Super Bowl contenders isn't easy.

LaChapelle 10-05-2009 08:24 AM

THis team is getting better, a smidgen at a time. Playing against far superior opponents

After the opening fumble and the onside kick disaster. They didn't just fold their tents and surrender.

The wildcat was an abortion. 3 straight kicks in the gut. The odds were stacked.

They need a win, very badly. Haley needs to look less like a n00b, very badly.

But they are inching forward.

bobbything 10-05-2009 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6140992)
I think we've definitely improved.

That must be exciting for you.

Tribal Warfare 10-05-2009 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6140982)
When you take into consideration that the 34-0 game was played on the road, with the 3rd string QB, and not at home, with a supposed franchise QB, as the 27-16 game was, is it really better?

I really do believe by mid-season if Cassel doesn't have his shit together by then he'll be benched.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-05-2009 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6140992)
This team takes baby steps every week. Remember when we couldn't get a first down in Baltimore?

I think we've definitely improved. Playing against Super Bowl contenders isn't easy.

No it doesn't, and that's the ****ing problem. These guys need to take a half step on whatever their main individual weaknesses are, and HOLD IT instead of trying to fix the entire ****ing car on a Sunday.

Hammock Parties 10-05-2009 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by bobbything (Post 6141004)
That must be exciting for you.

What did you really expect with new systems on offense and defense being executed by a bunch of no-talent bums?

The fact we did not get blown out 50-0 shocks me.

Hammock Parties 10-05-2009 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 6141027)
No it doesn't, and that's the ****ing problem. These guys need to take a half step on whatever their main individual weaknesses are, and HOLD IT instead of trying to fix the entire ****ing car on a Sunday.

We're averaging over 100 yards rushing per game.

That's progress.

The longest run we've surrendered all year is only 22 yards.

That's progress.

I expected us to be down 24-0 or something at halftime yesterday...17-3 was a surprise.

You guys expect way too much. This team isn't going to be in a dogfight with teams like the Giants this year. We're going through the brutal part of our schedule. We'll look better against the other bottom feeders.

Baby steps.

Otter 10-05-2009 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by TrebMaxx (Post 6140981)
It does amaze me what some CP'ers expectations for this team has been around here. The cupboard was bare when Pioli and Haley took the reigns of this team. Rome wasn't built in a day and neither will this team. The only disappointment thus far for me was the Oakland game. The other three I expected a loss.

The coaching staff before Haley and team have ruined careers.

Look at all the defensive linemen that just failed horribly and became nothing, absolute turds. Look what Derrick Johnson has become. Do you think any of them would be this bad if they played for a decent team like the Steelers?

The people running the show before these guys were clowns. Horrible.

If you tried to put together the worst coaching staff in the NFL you couldn't have done any better. It was disaster. And that's what these guys have to try and fix.

Peterson if four games out the door. And Peterson was an eyelash away of becoming on par with Al Davis.

This team ruined people.

Tiger's Fan 10-05-2009 08:45 AM

WOW

The same group of girls, worshiping at the trough of fatlock, a hack that they would normally trash as being a hack, unless his unfounded comments support their agenda of hate for the new regime.

Who'd a thunk that shit?

Coincidently, this same group of ladies were front and center with gems like this...

"The Chiefs fanbase can't stomach a rebuild. They long for 8-8, and endless mediocrity."

The one consolation in this weekend is that it should temper some of the Sanchez worship, but I doubt it.

beach tribe 10-05-2009 08:55 AM

I have always hated Whitlock, but after what i witnessed Haley doing that shit from inside the 10, well among tons of other things, I'm starting to agree with Twitlock.
There is absolutely no excuse for that BS Haley did to pad Cassels stats.
Cassel is looking horrible. Dude couldn't even hit a guy 10 yards in front of him on a screen pass. I'm still willing to give him some time, He's only started like 20 games, but if he doesn't get better than this shit, we're gonna need a QB.
I'm extremely worried that this o-line is going to ruin him. He's going to be looking at the pass rush every time he takes a snap. He will never succeed this way.
I really wish Brodie wasn't so fragile, and am also pretty pissed at him for not building the **** up. Eat some peanut butter sandwiches, and pump some iron country boy! I have a feeling we are going to need him once Cassel gets broken by someone coming by the RT.


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