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Hammock Parties 10-06-2009 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 6145827)
Yep. I wasn't completely obvious until the Philly game for me, but Cassel looks absolutely frightened out there at times.
Frightened quarterbacks throw interceptions.

As long as he stands in there and takes hits I don't think he's scared.

Rooster 10-06-2009 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6145792)
If they could run 2.4 yards and then fall forward, they will double their yards per pass attempt.
:LOL: That's true. Mark Castle sucks.

ChiefsCountry 10-06-2009 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 6145833)
Huh? Isn't KC, like, $876 million under the cap or something, to the point where they actually got penalized monetarily for being too low-spending?
Signing bonus money - Chiefs only have X amount of dollars for that.

Mr. Laz 10-06-2009 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 6145830)
I've thought of that. I'm not sure that's the reason we didn't aggressively go after better talent this year, though.

My take is that everybody knew that this season was going to be very rough but, unfortunately, they really couldn't evaluate our roster until we had a training camp and some games under our belt.

Planeteers haven't talked about it much, but Pioli has. He's mentioned it several times ... stating that he needs to find guys who have talent but also "respond" to the coaches (meaning Haley), or words to that effect. I don't think they knew which current players were going to "respond", so the strategy was to more or less hold pat until the smoke clears and they can see the picture more clearly.

Of course, that theory gives Pioli the benefit of the doubt that, after watching film, he knew we were horrible.

FAX
At this point we pretty much have to give Pioli the benefit of the doubt. You might be able to judge a player pretty quickly but a coach takes longer ... a GM even longer still.

We'll have to wait and see what happens next offseason before we even begin to judge Pioli imo.

FAX 10-06-2009 01:49 PM
Yards per attempt is a critical statistic. We looked at it once before on here and it emerged as an amazingly important correlator to wins and losses.

Nevertheless, my guess is that, if our wide receivers could catch those slants, we would improve pretty quickly in that regard. Those kinds of plays require good timing, though, and our offensive timing is crap. At the snap, we look a whole lot like an orgy of 11 idiot monkeys playing grab ass.

FAX

DaWolf 10-06-2009 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6145781)
Chiefs blew their wad of cash on Cassel. Plain and simple.
Doubtful. He hadn't signed the contract until the free agency period was well over. So it's not like there was anyone else of significance to sign.

Plus, we're still under the salary floor, so Pioli has to sign some guys to extensions to spend some of that money, otherwise we get fined.

Problem is, who the hell on this team do you sign to an extension?

htismaqe 10-06-2009 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6145835)
Frightened quarterbacks throw interceptions.

As long as he stands in there and takes hits I don't think he's scared.
He's not standing in there though. He's dumping the ball off as quickly as possible.

Len mentioned it at least 3 times on Sunday - Cassel was throwing the ball before the screen had any hope of getting setup.

FAX 10-06-2009 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6145852)
At this point we pretty much have to give Pioli the benefit of the doubt. You might be able to judge a player pretty quickly but a coach takes longer ... a GM even longer still.

We'll have to wait and see what happens next offseason before we even begin to judge Pioli imo.
I totally agree. It's very early.

FAX

DaWolf 10-06-2009 01:55 PM
Right now, Todd Haley is the OC, the QB coach, and the head coach. I think it's fair to say, especially since he wanted the bullseye on him, that he's not doing a good job calling the offense or coaching the QB's, and it's showing...

ChiefsCountry 10-06-2009 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 6145860)
Doubtful. He hadn't signed the contract until the free agency period was well over. So it's not like there was anyone else of significance to sign.

Plus, we're still under the salary floor, so Pioli has to sign some guys to extensions to spend some of that money, otherwise we get fined.

Problem is, who the hell on this team do you sign to an extension?
Again its not salary cap space we are talking about it, its signing bonus money.

FAX 10-06-2009 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 6145864)
He's not standing in there though. He's dumping the ball off as quickly as possible.

Len mentioned it at least 3 times on Sunday - Cassel was throwing the ball before the screen had any hope of getting setup.
He has no faith in his line. Nor should he.

Nevertheless, it's gotten to him.

FAX

Hammock Parties 10-06-2009 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 6145864)
He's not standing in there though. He's dumping the ball off as quickly as possible.

Len mentioned it at least 3 times on Sunday - Cassel was throwing the ball before the screen had any hope of getting setup.
That sounds like more of a timing issue to me...

Cassel has stood in the face of the rush plenty of times. I lose count of the snaps where he picks his ass up off the turf.

htismaqe 10-06-2009 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6145891)
That sounds like more of a timing issue to me...

Cassel has stood in the face of the rush plenty of times. I lose count of the snaps where he picks his ass up off the turf.
That could very well be the case.

Mr. Laz 10-06-2009 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 6145881)
He has no faith in his line. Nor should he.

Nevertheless, it's gotten to him.

FAX
But he's gotta nut up and run the play. If he wasn't playing so scared the offense would of be much more productive against the Giants.

He missed 2 touchdown passes and screwed up another handful of plays. We would of been in a competitive situation against the Giants if Cassel had played better.

Chiefnj2 10-06-2009 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 6145907)
That could very well be the case.
It doesn't help that there is a continual rotation of Savage, Battle and Charles behind LJ. They need to stick with someone rather than "who had a better week of practice."


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