Definitely. Haven't found a Broncos board worth posting on.

Why is that a problem for you?

Either way you're adding things that aren't there. Don't twist what? That you're pretending you know the intent of the referee when making the call and the letter from the NFL when saying it was incorrect?

Bronco fan.

Because your allegiance to your team is clouding your judgement here in this case and causing you to behave like a jackass.

what a coinkydink...!

I'm guessing that the ref made a call based on what he thinks the rule is.

I'm CERTAIN he didn't make a call based on trying to hand the Giants the game.

Don't get pissy because it was DJ Williams who had the most obvious and flagrant hit of the season so far to date against Roy Williams. Page's hit was textbook on a receiver who had possession of the ball. That's why the league sent over a "sorry 'bout our f'up" letter to the team. However, I'll be shocked if Williams isn't donating some money to his favorite charity this week.

I don't think he hates the Chiefs or anything. I just think he's incompetent. If you're a ref, you don't call what you don't see. It's as basic as that. Obviously he didn't see it because it didn't happen. If, as you say, he thought a shoulder to chest hit was illegal, he should be fired immediately.

Alrighty, then.

Let's watch for that. D.J. is going to be fined HOW MUCH?

... for the hit that wasn't a personal foul.
... that the Cowboys and their fans aren't even complaining about.

[QUOTE=orange;6151848]I'm guessing that the ref made a call based on what he thinks the rule is.

I'm CERTAIN he didn't make a call based on trying to hand the Giants the game.[/QUOTE]

Who's twisting things now? When did I ever say anything remotely like that?
You keep guessing you know what the ref thought, and assuming you know how he was applying the rule. You don't.

I'm responding to more people than you, ya'know.

Let's take Saccopoo above, for example.

Do you think he may be letting his Chiefs' allegiance distort his view a bit?

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I'll say this for you - you're about the only one here who admits the Teicher article doesn't say what the Teicher article doesn't say.

Too bad you don't have the courage of your convictions to say that directly to other Chiefs fans.

The ref meant to call shoulder to neck, but even knowing the crowd would be livid, he just chose not to explain why he was making the call to the crowd.

I'm not sure what the ref actually said. I never heard his actual call.

I was listening to Mitch and Lenny; and the replays have Deion Sanders on the voiceover; and they show Haley objecting animatedly. And they are ALL pointing out Page used his shoulder, not his head! As if it mattered!

I see you have stopped trying to defend the call as correct. That's refreshing. Still, seizing on the minor point that people are calling it an apology when perhaps it's only an admission that they were wrong is silly.

Once again, you have lept to an unwarranted conclusion.

I have made NO such remission. I still say the call was right. I still say the Teicher article is completely unclear as to whether the league now says there should have been a penalty.

I HAVE allowed that IF the League has backed off, it could ONLY BE because they've decided it wasn't the neck area. Be that as it may, it was close enough to force the ref to make a judgement call. A smarter play would not do that.

What's the point? The hit was below the shoulder on a receiver with possession of the ball. It was a bad call. Period.

And I don't give a crap if Williams didn't get a flag or the Cowboy fans aren't bitching about it. His hit on Williams is the exact same hit/reason why Page got flagged. It was a hit on a defenseless receiver who never had a chance on the ball. It resulted in injury. However, as you've had Lynch on your team for the past couple of years, I imagine that you've steeled yourself against other teams complaining about head shots/late hits/hits on defenseless receivers, and have come up with a litany of excuses to justify them. e.g., Williams hit on Williams, "a smarter player wouldn't do that."