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DaWolf 10-19-2009 02:05 PM

Just think what the reaction would be if he referred to Bowe as "she"...

the Talking Can 10-19-2009 02:07 PM

Bowe made at least two huge mistakes in that game that easily could have cost us a victory


and if that had happened, the usual group of Heathers would be here whining and crying about the Chiefs and that meany idiot Haley...


but Haley isn't supposed to hold Bowe accountable for repeated mistakes, just be nice guy and and let the fat losers continue to be fat losers....in which case the same group of Heathers would still be complaining about the Chiefs and that meany idiot Haley...

total no win situation....hell, we finally won a game and people are fainting because a coach said something mean to a player on the sideline....the first time in the history of the nfl, it seems...


i wish Haley could work over our soft bitch fan base as well...

Bearcat 10-19-2009 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6187931)
Assuming this report is accurate:

-Has Haley run out of motivation techniques if he's dropping "I'll trade your ass" in the middle of a game?

-What will he use for the rest of the season, once the trade deadline passes tomorrow?

-If the HC feels it's necessary to use that type of threat to "motivate" a star player, what does that say about the coach? Or for that matter, the star player?

I think you're looking into it way further than Haley or Bowe or anyone else on the team. Like it was said earlier, it was probably along the lines of:

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"WHAT THE F**K, BOWE?!? I'M TIRED OF THIS SHIT!! IF YOU CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT TO F**KING DO OUT THERE, I'LL TRADE YOUR ASS OUTTA HERE!"
...not something Haley thought about for more than a second in terms of motivational technique, or what he'll say next time, or whatever. I've had a boss who was high strung and liked to yell a lot, and it was just that... yelling. While some tirades might be part of a master plan to push certain buttons, others aren't, and this doesn't seem like anything more than yelling.

Whether it'll wear off, I guess we'll see, but I certainly don't see Haley thinking "threatening to trade him is all I've got left!!!" He was pissed. He yelled. And the article doesn't even really say whether it did light a fire under Bowe's ass or if it was all because they were playing the Washington Redskins.

OnTheWarpath15 10-19-2009 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 6188006)
I think it's ****ing hilarious that you actually think that you know what does or doesn't motivate Bowe.

Bowe specifically? No. I'm not in his head.

However, you'd be hard pressed to argue with the position that the majority of professional football players are driven by pride/ego and money. Not childish threats.

kysirsoze 10-19-2009 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 6187993)
How in the world can you say it worked?

The coach is making childish threats in the middle of the damn game. Winning doesn't justify the coach acting like an irrational egomaniac.

If the article is to be believed at all, then not only did he say it, it motivated Bowe. He then had a great day, especially considering the offensive output of the rest of the team.

doomy3 10-19-2009 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 6188011)
I highlighted your problem. You're assuming the Chiefs have professional athletes. More like the cast of "Stripes".

You take your foot off the pedal when the engine is humming. The time to be nice to them is AFTER they know what they're doing. Until then, they get the whip, and gruel.

I agree for the most part.

However, Bowe is a professional athlete. And a damned good one at that.

Bearcat 10-19-2009 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6187992)
I think it's ****ing hilarious that people actually think that these type of threats actually motivate professional athletes. Like Bowe would have only had 20 yards receiving yesterday had Haley not threatened him.

The kid put up 100+ because he's ****ing talented, not because Todd Haley made some dumbass threat.

Exactly, and it's ridiculous to think Haley did it to motivate Bowe.

Fish 10-19-2009 02:10 PM

If you throw the ball to Bowe as many times as we did this last game, he's going to get his yards. That's a given, regardless of any threats.

The only thing I see that changed here is Cassel focusing more on Bowe, like he should have been doing all along. He still dropped quite a few that he shouldn't have.

Buehler445 10-19-2009 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6187992)
Don't even bother, dude.

It's the polar opposite of Herm, therefore everyone loves it.

I think it's ****ing hilarious that people actually think that these type of threats actually motivate professional athletes. Like Bowe would have only had 20 yards receiving yesterday had Haley not threatened him.

The kid put up 100+ because he's ****ing talented, not because Todd Haley made some dumbass threat.

Please don't constrew what I said with a justification for Haley. If it was a legit threat, it was poor coaching. I just think whatever it was that he said was taken out of context.
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BigMeatballDave 10-19-2009 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6187920)
You're right. A tactic used to get the best out of a player truly shows what a joke he is and how little he knows. Haley should be fired today.

...and you're a dumbshit...

BigMeatballDave 10-19-2009 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 6187928)
oh no, a coach said something mean to a player who screwed up during a game...


everyone faint together

ROFL

DaWolf 10-19-2009 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6188018)
Bowe specifically? No. I'm not in his head.

However, you'd be hard pressed to argue with the position that the majority of professional football players are driven by pride/ego and money. Not childish threats.

Uhhh, that's the whole reason this team has sucked so badly the last few years. It's full of guys who are driven by pride/ego and money. It's NOT full of guys who are driven by the desire to win. So that's exactly what Haley and Pioli are trying to figure out right now. Who wants to win ballgames, and who is content to get a paycheck and be a mediocre football player for the rest of their professional career.

If Bowe is in the latter category, then yes, trade his ass.

If Haley can build a team that is driven by the thought of winning and who are self accountable and accountable to their teammates, he won't need to bother with the button pushing...

Brock 10-19-2009 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave (Post 6188027)
...and you're a dumbshit...

He's not saying what you think he's saying.

DeezNutz 10-19-2009 02:14 PM

I remember this one time in a heated moment at Johnson County 3&2, I had a coach yell, "You little shits better pick it up."

I was scared shitless and went on to a go 3-4 with 5 RBIs. Worked like a charm. Knocked the pussy out of me.

I was in the 4th grade, of course, but high-quality coaching is high-quality coaching.

the Talking Can 10-19-2009 02:14 PM

it doesn't mean anything people

shit like this gets said on every sideline of every game every week of every year....

it's forgotten about almost as soon as it happens...


****ing emo fans


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