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Titty Meat 10-28-2009 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6215349)
So?

It won't matter a lick if they're young but untalented.

So far, none of the draft choices brought in by Pioli have made any type of impact, unlike last year where Flowers, Carr, Albert and Charles all made an immediate impact.

Eh well technically Succop has. Your right though Piolis first draft was suck.

DaWolf 10-28-2009 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6215349)
So?

It won't matter a lick if they're young but untalented.

So far, none of the draft choices brought in by Pioli have made any type of impact, unlike last year where Flowers, Carr, Albert and Charles all made an immediate impact.

Well, it really depends what you mean by "immediate impact". If immediate impact is starting and putting up stats, then yeah sure. My measure of immediate impact is do they make your team any better. So if you're making an immediate impact on a 2-14 team, and this year you're making an immediate impact on a 1-6 team, how much of a real impact are you making?

Marcellus 10-28-2009 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 6215862)
Well, it really depends what you mean by "immediate impact". If immediate impact is starting and putting up stats, then yeah sure. My measure of immediate impact is do they make your team any better. So if you're making an immediate impact on a 2-14 team, and this year you're making an immediate impact on a 1-6 team, how much of a real impact are you making?

That makes entirely too much sense.

Not to mention the positions we drafted were mainly D-line (3-4 DE) which take some time to develop. Not like a corner who can come in and be as noticeable immediately.

Donald Washington was a known project as well. Just like Morgan was supposed to be 2 years ago.

Mecca 10-28-2009 07:52 PM

You can be an impact player on an awful team, Calvin Johnson is.

OnTheWarpath15 10-28-2009 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6215875)
You can be an impact player on an awful team, Calvin Johnson is.

Dwayne Bowe used to be.

Now he gets 5 targets a game.

Mecca 10-28-2009 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6215890)
Dwayne Bowe used to be.

Now he gets 5 targets a game.

Dwayne Bowe gets the same targets as Lance Long, I don't understand it.

Tribal Warfare 10-28-2009 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6215875)
You can be an impact player on an awful team, Calvin Johnson is.

It also helps if he can stay on the field and not fight through nagging injuries.

Direckshun 10-28-2009 08:04 PM

I think this team just needs a couple ugly years to build talent.

I don't think there's any mystery to it.

Mecca 10-28-2009 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 6215899)
I think this team just needs a couple ugly years to build talent.

I don't think there's any mystery to it.

Well if we use those years drafting types like Tyson Jackson it's going to take more than a couple.

OnTheWarpath15 10-28-2009 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6215894)
Dwayne Bowe gets the same targets as Lance Long, I don't understand it.

Louis Murphy has been targeted more than Bowe.

Louis.

Murphy.

And that's with Oakland having 30 fewer pass attempts.

Mecca 10-28-2009 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6215910)
Louis Murphy has been targeted more than Bowe.

Louis.

Murphy.

And that's with Oakland having 30 fewer pass attempts.

So either our coach doesn't call plays for him or our QB frankly doesn't like him...I wonder which one it is.

CHIEFS58 10-28-2009 08:10 PM

ok, heres some peter king knowledge:

"Now, the Cowboys might be completely back and they might not— but what I like is that Romo is playing like you have to play sports."

Holy shit. Thats the most inane ****ery i have ever read. Peter King might be a writer...and he might not...but what I like is that he writes like he has to write.

Christ hes useless.

DaneMcCloud 10-28-2009 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 6215862)
Well, it really depends what you mean by "immediate impact". If immediate impact is starting and putting up stats, then yeah sure. My measure of immediate impact is do they make your team any better. So if you're making an immediate impact on a 2-14 team, and this year you're making an immediate impact on a 1-6 team, how much of a real impact are you making?

Excuse me?

This is like "that depends on the definition of is".

Tyson Jackson is not an impact player, period, nor has he made an immediate impact. The defense has not improved over last year.

Alex Magee has made no impact. Say what you will but Charles and to some extent Cottam impacted the Chiefs positively last year.

If the Chiefs had taken Knowshon Moreno, Percy Harvin, Jeremy Maclin, Michael Crabtree or even Michael Oher, the Chiefs would have seen immediate impact.

Tyson Jackson's position is as such that it'll never make an impact. The other guys in Magee, Washington, Brown, Lawrence, Williams and O'Connell haven't had any impact, either.

For a team that was 2-14 last year with an extremely young roster, I fully expected Pioli to choose players that could make a difference and make an immediately impact.

So far, that has not been the case.

OnTheWarpath15 10-28-2009 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6215913)
So either our coach doesn't call plays for him or our QB frankly doesn't like him...I wonder which one it is.

I can only speak to the game I went to, but Bowe was rarely if ever Cassel's first read - he was usually on the other side of the field.

Once we were in the 2-minute drill, however, he began getting the first look.

Odd.

Pioli Zombie 10-28-2009 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6215903)
Well if we use those years drafting types like Tyson Jackson it's going to take more than a couple.

How do you know that? What if Jackson turns out to be a top lineman?
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