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Silock 11-28-2009 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6299058)
Ive heard a lot of good things about it which has made me curious. But, I've always been one of those who prefers to stick to the basics. Im down on pure basics and fundamentals. Like to keep things simple. I think one can get ripped just from sticking to the basics and keeping things simple.

Basics also work if you know what you're doing. P90X was designed for people that don't have a ****ing clue where to start. EDIT: That doesn't mean that others can't benefit; it was just meant to be as foolproof as possible.

Get ripped - eat less, eat quality, weight train 3 times per week, work in 30 minutes of HIIT cardio after.

Not a lot to it, really. Cals in vs. cals out.

RedThat 11-28-2009 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 6299066)
If all you want to do is get ripped, I think p90x is perfect. I know two people who have done it, and got ripped.

The thing for me is the mental switch of going to the gym. When I am at the gym, I am at the gym. No clients. If my wife or my oldest daughter comes, we are there to work out. No distractions. No, stopping to fix this, or do that..... it is all about the workout.

To me, it is an escape. I don't drink. I don't party. I don't watch a ton of movies or TV. My life has been about work, my church and my family. It is nice to have a time for just me. Just me finding out what I can do. Finding out how far I can push myself.

I have told myself that once I hit 315 on the bench, and I get as cut up as I want, I will cut back to a trip to the gym three times a week.

Honestly, as much as I enjoy it, I don't know if I can do that.

It sounds like you have the attitude and lifestyle to compliment health and fitness. Right on man. Good staff. And it is good to hear that you enjoy it, and since you enjoy it, it'll be a lot easier for you to be consistent at it. And thats what its all about imo.

SenselessChiefsFan 11-28-2009 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6299190)
Good staff.


Thats what she said.

Oh Snap 11-28-2009 01:21 PM

wheyabolic extreme 60... Its good, and Ive seen great results

Also make sure you are taking a multi vitamin...that is probably the most important supplement that you absolutely need to be taking.

I do a sport vitapack from GNC. Bodybuilding.com also has some real good deals on supplements.

RedThat 11-28-2009 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 6299225)
Thats what she said.

Damn typos lol

RedThat 11-28-2009 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 6299179)
Basics also work if you know what you're doing. P90X was designed for people that don't have a ****ing clue where to start. EDIT: That doesn't mean that others can't benefit; it was just meant to be as foolproof as possible.

Get ripped - eat less, eat quality, weight train 3 times per week, work in 30 minutes of HIIT cardio after.

Not a lot to it, really. Cals in vs. cals out.



Yup. Losing weight is really that simple. You just have to burn more calories than you consume. however, for me its always been a struggle because of my bodytype. Im an endomorph. Putting on muscle has never been an issue with me, but, shedding those pounds and keeping the weight off, oh man that is so tough. I have to constantly keep up with my training, dieting and cardio. The moment I slack and take time off the gym, and don't eat right, I lose muscle and poof, the fat goes right back on my body in an instant! But when I train and eat well, its all gravy. I put on the muscle easily and the more muscle I put on the better. Because the more muscle you have, the more calories you burn at rest according to your RMR. That is one of the advantages I have.

Its just a matter of being consistent. One of my biggest struggles. I know this is going to sound bad, but I don't enjoy working out and dieting, it's very hard work...lol..but I appreciate it for what it is and does. Keeps you healthy and makes look and feel good. Can't go wrong.

But yeah basics have always worked for me. I like to provide a little bit of balance in my training where I incorporate exercises that involve both compounded and isolated movements. My reps range anywhere from 6-8 to 12-20. I usually do power lifts such as squats, bench presses, deadlifts. I've found several advantages in performing exercises that involve compound movements. For one, they maintain your strength by stimulating those white-twitched muscle fibres, secondly, they exercise several muscle groups throughout the body so you have no worries there and will stimulate each muscle group in the body more than once. Plus, they give you that hard, dense look, which I love.

And training for endurance, doing isolated movements with a rep range from about 8-12, and the lighter I go, the more I increase my reps from anywhere to 12-20. This type of training gives that shape and sculpts the muscles real well and stimulates those red-twitched muscle fibres. This training is challenging I found, its just the resting between the sets. gotta keep them minimal. Its easy to lose track of rest between sets...lol sometimes we get caught up in bad habits..i.e, talking at the gym is one.

It all depends on what one wants. Im all about balance. I enjoy the big-lean look. Im all about symmetry and proportion. Another advantage about being an endomorph is, I can diet to get ripped, and on the other hand, I can still put on the size, maintain my strength since my bodytype compliments me in that regard. But just the leaning out part is where I really gotta watch those calories, and do sufficient amount of cardio to keep my metabolism cranked.
My metabolism isn't as fast as an ectomorph, thats why I gotta constantly diet and do more cardio to lose weight. its harder for me to lose weight since my metabolism isn't as fast as opposed to other bodytypes.

If my protein intake is up, its very hard for me to lose muscle. But just from dieting, sticking with this type of training, and being consistent maintains that big-lean look for me.

SenselessChiefsFan 11-28-2009 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6299245)
Yup. Losing weight is really that simple. You just have to burn more calories than you consume. however, for me its always been a struggle because of my bodytype. Im an endomorph. Putting on muscle has never been an issue with me, but, shedding those pounds and keeping the weight off, oh man that is so tough. I have to constantly keep up with my training, dieting and cardio. The moment I slack and take time off the gym, and don't eat right, I lose muscle and poof, the fat goes right back on my body in an instant! But when I train and eat well, its all gravy. I put on the muscle easily and the more muscle I put on the better. Because the more muscle you have, the more calories you burn at rest according to your RMR. That is one of the advantages I have.

Its just a matter of being consistent. One of my biggest struggles. I know this is going to sound bad, but I don't enjoy working out and dieting, it's very hard work...lol..but I appreciate it for what it is and does. Keeps you healthy and makes look and feel good. Can't go wrong.

But yeah basics have always worked for me. I like to provide a little bit of balance in my training where I incorporate exercises that involve both compounded and isolated movements. My reps range anywhere from 6-8 to 12-20. I usually do power lifts such as squats, bench presses, deadlifts. I've found several advantages in performing exercises that involve compound movements. For one, they maintain your strength by stimulating those white-twitched muscle fibres, secondly, they exercise several muscle groups throughout the body so you have no worries there and will stimulate each muscle group in the body more than once. Plus, they give you that hard, dense look, which I love.

And training for endurance, doing isolated movements with a rep range from about 8-12, and the lighter I go, the more I increase my reps from anywhere to 12-20. This type of training gives that shape and sculpts the muscles real well and stimulates those red-twitched muscle fibres. This training is challenging I found, its just the resting between the sets. gotta keep them minimal. Its easy to lose track of rest between sets...lol sometimes we get caught up in bad habits..i.e, talking at the gym is one.

It all depends on what one wants. Im all about balance. I enjoy the big-lean look. Im all about symmetry and proportion. Another advantage about being an endomorph is, I can diet to get ripped, and on the other hand, I can still put on the size, maintain my strength since my bodytype compliments me in that regard. But just the leaning out part is where I really gotta watch those calories, and do sufficient amount of cardio to keep my metabolism cranked.
My metabolism isn't as fast as an ectomorph, thats why I gotta constantly diet and do more cardio to lose weight. its harder for me to lose weight since my metabolism isn't as fast as opposed to other bodytypes.

If my protein intake is up, its very hard for me to lose muscle. But just from dieting, sticking with this type of training, and being consistent maintains that big-lean look for me.

If you go to a gym, make friends. I try to get to know as many people there as possible..... without being the annoying guy that wants to talk to you while you are maxing out....

The more friends you have, the more it becomes a social thing, and less of a work thing.

Also, when you don't feel like it.... just tell yourself that you can go in and do half of what you normally do.... a light day. Then, when you get in, get warmed up.... most of the time, you will probably do your normal work.

Please don't take this as me thinking I know it all. I don't. But, these are things that help me on the days that I think I have more important things to do... or when I feel run down.

RedThat 11-28-2009 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 6299273)
If you go to a gym, make friends. I try to get to know as many people there as possible..... without being the annoying guy that wants to talk to you while you are maxing out....

The more friends you have, the more it becomes a social thing, and less of a work thing.

Also, when you don't feel like it.... just tell yourself that you can go in and do half of what you normally do.... a light day. Then, when you get in, get warmed up.... most of the time, you will probably do your normal work.

Please don't take this as me thinking I know it all. I don't. But, these are things that help me on the days that I think I have more important things to do... or when I feel run down.

No. no..no worries man. Appreciate the tip provided.

Thats a good mind trick. Doing little is better than doing nothing at all.

Silock 11-28-2009 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 6299273)
If you go to a gym, make friends. I try to get to know as many people there as possible..... without being the annoying guy that wants to talk to you while you are maxing out....

The more friends you have, the more it becomes a social thing, and less of a work thing.

Also, when you don't feel like it.... just tell yourself that you can go in and do half of what you normally do.... a light day. Then, when you get in, get warmed up.... most of the time, you will probably do your normal work.

Please don't take this as me thinking I know it all. I don't. But, these are things that help me on the days that I think I have more important things to do... or when I feel run down.

**** I hate that. I hate talking to people at the gym. Leave me the **** alone. I'm there to work. I don't want to talk, and you're messing up my rhythm.

I talk afterward, though.

Bowser 11-28-2009 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 6299179)
Basics also work if you know what you're doing. P90X was designed for people that don't have a ****ing clue where to start. EDIT: That doesn't mean that others can't benefit; it was just meant to be as foolproof as possible.

Get ripped - eat less, eat quality, weight train 3 times per week, work in 30 minutes of HIIT cardio after.

Not a lot to it, really. Cals in vs. cals out.

I know you edited, and I'm not trying to bust your balls, but I just wanted to throw out there that P90X was a huge part in me losing nearly 60 lbs (so far). I had been in and out of the gym for the better part of 20 years and was getting tired of the same old (modified) routines. P90X was just what I needed.

RedThat 11-28-2009 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 6299565)
**** I hate that. I hate talking to people at the gym. Leave me the **** alone. I'm there to work. I don't want to talk, and you're messing up my rhythm.

I talk afterward, though.

It's a bad habit thats sooo easy to fall into. You're having a conversion next thing you know time goes by and then the muscles get cold.

SenselessChiefsFan 11-28-2009 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 6299565)
**** I hate that. I hate talking to people at the gym. Leave me the **** alone. I'm there to work. I don't want to talk, and you're messing up my rhythm.

I talk afterward, though.

I don't like to talk while working... but in between sets, and before and after my workout, I like to talk.

I always try to make sure I don't bother anyone else. You can usually tell when a guy doesn't want to be bothered.

SenselessChiefsFan 11-28-2009 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 6299635)
I know you edited, and I'm not trying to bust your balls, but I just wanted to throw out there that P90X was a huge part in me losing nearly 60 lbs (so far). I had been in and out of the gym for the better part of 20 years and was getting tired of the same old (modified) routines. P90X was just what I needed.

That is a huge thing to consider.... everyone is different. Every body is different. You have to find a routine that works for you mentally and physically. The real key is to keep working and searching for something that will work.

Silock 11-28-2009 08:02 PM

Routine isn't nearly as important as diet for losing weight.


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