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Mecca 01-05-2010 09:41 PM

Forte's line turning into the worst one in the league killed his year.

But the Bears still have one thing the Chiefs don't have, a legit guy lining up under center.

The Bad Guy 01-05-2010 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6413516)
You're letting your FF frustrations blind you on this one, Frank. He rarely went down on first contact last year, mostly because he wasn't getting contact until the 2nd level. This year, his OL did him no favors.

Forte didn't turn into a POS overnight.

This has nothing to do with fantasy football.

I watched just about every Bears game this year. The guy NEVER broke tackles. He never created plays on his own.

The Bears line sucked, but even a physical runner is getting yards after first contact. Forte didn't do that.

If there wasn't a hole, he didn't get anything.

It's not last year anymore. Forte was a good runner his rookie year. He regressed worse than any 2nd year back I've ever seen.

He's not physical by any means.

Mecca 01-05-2010 09:44 PM

Also I don't think anyone should be looking at a RB as a centerpiece seeing as they have very short careers.

The Bad Guy 01-05-2010 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6413528)
Forte's line turning into the worst one in the league killed his year.

But the Bears still have one thing the Chiefs don't have, a legit guy lining up under center.

The love Cutler gets around here is amazing. Bears out of the playoffs, what does Jay do? Throw 7 touchdowns.

I just don't see Cutler as anything but Elvis Grbac. Both padded stats when games and seasons didn't matter anymore. Both had a bullshit care-free attitude.

I guess having a rocket arm eliminates all deficiencies.

Mecca 01-05-2010 09:47 PM

That's nice and all, he's better than our guy.

I'm not sitting here pimping him as Manning or Rodgers or Rivers or something.

Frazod 01-05-2010 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6413528)
Forte's line turning into the worst one in the league killed his year.

But the Bears still have one thing the Chiefs don't have, a legit guy lining up under center.

Shit. Cutler is Rex Grossman with diabetes and a bad attitude. I still can't believe how much the Bears gave up for his punk ass. :shake:

The Bad Guy 01-05-2010 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6413562)
That's nice and all, he's better than our guy.

I'm not sitting here pimping him as Manning or Rodgers or Rivers or something.

No, you're not. But you act like coaches should pick the Bears based on him.

dirk digler 01-05-2010 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6413549)
The love Cutler gets around here is amazing. Bears out of the playoffs, what does Jay do? Throw 7 touchdowns.

I just don't see Cutler as anything but Elvis Grbac. Both padded stats when games and seasons didn't matter anymore. Both had a bullshit care-free attitude.

I guess having a rocket arm eliminates all deficiencies.

He is not even Elvis Grbac. He is Jeff George reincarnate until he proves otherwise.

OnTheWarpath15 01-05-2010 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6413571)
No, you're not. But you act like coaches should pick the Bears based on him.

Considering the QB is the hardest position to find on offense, you could see why, provided you weren't blinded by Cutler hate.

For all Cutlers shortcomings, real and perceived, he's still heads and shoulders above Cassel.

The offense revolves around the QB. Kinda important if you're an OC.

Mecca 01-05-2010 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6413571)
No, you're not. But you act like coaches should pick the Bears based on him.

Well that would factor in to my decision, it's harder to get a QB than anything else. RB's are a dime a dozen.

DeezNutz 01-05-2010 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6413540)
This has nothing to do with fantasy football.

I watched just about every Bears game this year. The guy NEVER broke tackles. He never created plays on his own.

The Bears line sucked, but even a physical runner is getting yards after first contact. Forte didn't do that.

If there wasn't a hole, he didn't get anything.

It's not last year anymore. Forte was a good runner his rookie year. He regressed worse than any 2nd year back I've ever seen.

He's not physical by any means.

I don't think he regressed. As a runner, he wasn't spectacular as a rookie.

Captain Checkdown, however, did a great job dumping it off to him in space. With Cutler, the Bears did not properly utilize Forte's skill set.

The Bad Guy 01-05-2010 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6413576)
Considering the QB is the hardest position to find on offense, you could see why, provided you weren't blinded by Cutler hate.

For all Cutlers shortcomings, real and perceived, he's still heads and shoulders above Cassel.

Yes, it's just a bias with Cutler. Give me a break. The guy is a shitbag with a big arm. My Cutler hate is based on decision-making, attitude and not leading his team to anything EVER in his career.

What exactly do you love about Cutler besides the fact he can throw it a mile like Uncle Rico?

Mecca 01-05-2010 09:52 PM

Cutler likes to push the ball down field, anyone that thought Forte would catch 70 balls again, was high.

The Bad Guy 01-05-2010 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6413580)
I don't think he regressed. As a runner, he wasn't spectacular as a rookie.

Captain Checkdown, however, did a great job dumping it off to him in space. With Cutler, the Bears did not properly utilize Forte's skill set.

I can agree with this.

However, his rookie year he was able to make plays when there weren't any.

This last year, if there wasn't a hole, he was getting tackled by the first defender.

Mecca 01-05-2010 09:53 PM

Whoa Whoa Whoa a shitbag?

He's at the very least a borderline top 10 QB, atleast 10-15.


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