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SAUTO 01-10-2010 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6430933)
I'm not. Tony Romo is not a franchise QB.

Jesus, he has more tools to work with than Matt Cassel did last year. 3 damned good RBs and one of the two or three best TEs in the game along with a legit #1.

Tony Romo is Matt Cassel, and I wouldn't want either one leading my team.

almost 4500 yards and an almost 3-1 int ratio. what else do you want?
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OnTheWarpath15 01-10-2010 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6430883)
Wow what ****ing planet are you on dipshit?

You're the ****ing moron that quoted some interenet ****tard to try and back his incredibly ****ed up opinion. And lost.

Multiple state IP's? If that's what OnTheRag told you he's lying. If you ever want to find out I can tell you where to find me pussy.

ROFL

TheGuardian 01-10-2010 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6430922)
Actually, you used Doug Tucker, from the AP, and he quoted Herm Edwards who said that Dorsey occasionally two-gapped in college (never claimed he didn't, FWIW).

What I then did was bring up multiple scouting reports which stated that Dorsey's best fit would be as a 3 Technique in a 4-3.

That was opinions based on comparing him to Warren Sapp, which he's not, and anyone who really watched him would know that. So all you've done is just repeat shit that other people say instead of knowing what you are watching.

THE FACT is Dorsey never did that in college. And he didn't "occasionally 2 gap" in college you complete ****ing idiot it was the main thing he did. This is why you're a god damned moron.

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You then began equivocating, saying that you felt that Dorsey would fit best in a 1.5 gap scheme (which no one actually runs) instead of a 2 gap (which you claimed would be his best fit all season).

It's not my fault you're a duplicitous scumbag.
More of your ****ing football ignorance. A gap and a half scheme is run in various defenses by everyone in certain fronts. The Giants ran a gap and a half scheme (2 gap by some players, 1 by others) in their 40 front for several years. But you are really just a ****ing parrot and everyone knows that.

CaliforniaChief 01-10-2010 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6430883)
Wow what ****ing planet are you on dipshit?

You're the ****ing moron that quoted some interenet ****tard to try and back his incredibly ****ed up opinion. And lost.

Multiple state IP's? If that's what OnTheRag told you he's lying. If you ever want to find out I can tell you where to find me pussy.

Wow Hamas, you could start your own CP Fight Club if you wanted to.

milkman 01-10-2010 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 6430941)
almost 4500 yards and an almost 3-1 int ratio. what else do you want?
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Numbers for QBs in today's NFL are misleading.

Trent Green had multiple 4000 yard seasons, but he was never more than a game manager.

I'd have to look up the numbers, but I don't believe that Montana ever had a 4000 yard season, and he was the absolute epidome of franchise QB.

TheGuardian 01-10-2010 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 6430956)
Wow Hamas, you could start your own CP Fight Club if you wanted to.

He'd have a meltdown before he would show up.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-10-2010 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6430948)
That was opinions based on comparing him to Warren Sapp, which he's not, and anyone who really watched him would know that. So all you've done is just repeat shit that other people say instead of knowing what you are watching.

THE FACT is Dorsey never did that in college. And he didn't "occasionally 2 gap" in college you complete ****ing idiot it was the main thing he did. This is why you're a god damned moron.



More of your ****ing football ignorance. A gap and a half scheme is run in various defenses by everyone in certain fronts. The Giants ran a gap and a half scheme (2 gap by some players, 1 by others) in their 40 front for several years. But you are really just a ****ing parrot and everyone knows that.

It's funny, cause we're talking about 3-4 defenses.

3-4 defenses are either Fairbanks (2 Gap) or Phillips based on the DL (1 Gap).

Now, you're backsliding again.

From the thread yesterday:


Of course, we'll also ignore you just conjuring things out of the ether, like claiming that the Phillips defense is a 1.5 gap scheme. It's not. It's a one-gap scheme.

I know you think that your football knowledge would overflow the Grand Canyon, but it wouldn't fill a thimble.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-10-2010 03:21 PM

The Guardian just changes his opinions with the wind, and then claims that he's right.

He's like a gambling advisor who tells half the callers to pick one team and the other half to pick the other, then claims his 100% success rate.

SAUTO 01-10-2010 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6430963)
Numbers for QBs in today's NFL are misleading.

Trent Green had multiple 4000 yard seasons, but he was never more than a game manager.

I'd have to look up the numbers, but I don't believe that Montana ever had a 4000 yard season, and he was the absolute epidome of franchise QB.

ok so before this season palmer, iyo, was. why?
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TheGuardian 01-10-2010 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6430922)
Actually, you used Doug Tucker, from the AP, and he quoted Herm Edwards who said that Dorsey occasionally two-gapped in college (never claimed he didn't, FWIW).

I want to come back to this one because it's so ****ing rich.

This is from Dorsey's own mouth........

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Q: How will attacking the quarterback more make a difference in your game?

DORSEY: “It will make it a lot different. At LSU we did a lot of two-gap gap and a little freedom. When you play this it allows you to make more plays. It allows you to be more athletic in what you doing? I am really looking forward to that opportunity.”
http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2008/04...n_dorsey__426/

You know what that "a little freedom" means dumbass? Yeah, they weren't shooting gaps, and getting up the field at people.

You said Herm said Dorsey "occasionally" played two gap. That's not what he said. He said...........

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"He was a two-gap a lot and he never got to penetrate," Edwards said.

Maybe you need to learn the difference between "occasionally" and "a lot". Like I own your ass on this subject A LOT. Actually, all the ****ing time. Mainly because you don't have a clue as to what you are talking about and then resort to using movie quotes as smack talk when you get a foot broke off in your ass.

OnTheWarpath15 01-10-2010 03:25 PM

A "little freedom," or "very little freedom?"

I know, details.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-10-2010 03:36 PM

Wait, so now you're getting on me for "occasionally" two gapping (when again, I never said he didn't) and a lot, and yet in the very same post in which you chide me for that, you equate "a little freedom" to "very little freedom"??

You might want to get the multiple voices in yoru head checked out, because I never claimed Dorsey didn't two gap in college, even though you seem by god damned and determined to prove that I did.

Here's a question for you, though:

Sergio Kindle played DE his last year at Texas. Does he profile best as a 4-3 DE or a 3-4 OLB?

Eric Crouch played QB at Nebraska, yet was...gasp, drafted as a safety.

James Harrison played DE in college yet became DPOY at an OLB.

Now, why might that be important to projecting someone for the next level?

TheGuardian 01-10-2010 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6431040)
Wait, so now you're getting on me for "occasionally" two gapping (when again, I never said he didn't) and a lot, and yet in the very same post in which you chide me for that, you equate "a little freedom" to "very little freedom"??

You might want to get the multiple voices in yoru head checked out, because I never claimed Dorsey didn't two gap in college, even though you seem by god damned and determined to prove that I did.

Here's a question for you, though:

Sergio Kindle played DE his last year at Texas. Does he profile best as a 4-3 DE or a 3-4 OLB?

Eric Crouch played QB at Nebraska, yet was...gasp, drafted as a safety.

James Harrison played DE in college yet became DPOY at an OLB.

Now, why might that be important to projecting someone for the next level?

Because it's obvious now that the projections are off/wrong. And you seem to have trouble understanding this.

BossChief 01-10-2010 05:04 PM

Guardian: Just because Dorseys main job at LSU wasn't 1 gaping, doesn't mean that isn't what he was drafted for in the Pros. It was. Dorsey was drafted so high because even though his main responsibility in college wasn't to shoot gaps, it was what he was dominant at.

What Dorsey did at LSU while being injured and as you said, mostly 2 gaping, is simply amazing and hard to think that anyone would think that his best NFL position would be a 3-tec or 1 gap nose. I still think a 1 gap nose is where he could be a legitimate NFL DMVP, but I doubt he is ever in the position to do so.

A shame.

OnTheWarpath15 01-10-2010 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6431519)
Guardian: Just because Dorseys main job at LSU wasn't 1 gaping, doesn't mean that isn't what he was drafted for in the Pros. It was. Dorsey was drafted so high because even though his main responsibility in college wasn't to shoot gaps, it was what he was dominant at.

What Dorsey did at LSU while being injured and as you said, mostly 2 gaping, is simply amazing and hard to think that anyone would think that his best NFL position would be a 3-tec or 1 gap nose. I still think a 1 gap nose is where he could be a legitimate NFL DMVP, but I doubt he is ever in the position to do so.

A shame.

You're wasting your time.


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