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WildTurkey 02-02-2010 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6500888)
Albert is a talented player? As a LT? And what are you basing this on?

His rookie year he did a pretty nice job..... and considering the circumstances this season I thought he improved as the year went on......

OnTheWarpath15 02-02-2010 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 6500899)
No, you don't get it. If you give Cassel 3 seconds, he'll take 4. If you give him 4, he'll take 5. No receiver is quite open enough for him to throw the ball to him. He's not decisive. Probably because he doesn't have confidence in his arm/accruacy.

The solution to better QB play is not to get a better OL, the solution is to get a better QB. Just like Jamal Charles made the run blocking look a whole lot better than LJ did. The OL is adequate. You can make it better over time by drafting good players in rounds 3 and later. You need to use your early picks for playmakers, cause you aren't going to stumble over those in the later rounds very often.

Well said.

Cassel took 8 sacks in the final 6 games, yet played his worst football over that timeframe.

I'm sick of everyone else getting blamed for the failures of our QB.

WildTurkey 02-02-2010 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6500898)
Why does he have to be a Pro Bowler?

Christ, the PB is nothing more than a popularity contest.

Michael Roos is one of the better young LT's in the game, and he's been to ONE Pro Bowl.

You lost what little credibility you had left when you compared Okung to Joe ****ing Thomas.

yeah where the **** did that come from

OnTheWarpath15 02-02-2010 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by WildTurkey (Post 6500908)
yeah where the **** did that come from

His ass.

Okung is the (arguably) best OT in a bad class. Period.

WildTurkey 02-02-2010 11:42 PM

Not just the QB the WR's take a lot of the blame as well for not getting open as well... we need playmakers it doesn't matter how good you block if your WR's aren't getting open and the QB is holding on to the ball to ****ing long

Saccopoo 02-02-2010 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6500127)
No player in this draft at LT is

a) as good a prospect as Albert for the position.

Bullshit. Albert was a college guard. He was a complete and utter PROJECT at left tackle. It would be like taking Mike Iupati at #5 this year and forcing him to play LT his rookie season. (And I don't think Albert has Iupati's athleticism.) And Albert isn't a goddamn prospect. He's going into his third season in the NFL. His ****ing career is 25% over and he hasn't shown shit so far.

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b) as good at his position as Berry, McClain or at least five others are at theirs.
He is exactly McClain at his position. Solid, a very good player. He'll be a very good pro for a long time (depending upon injuries). However, I'm assuming that you watched the National Championship game and got all giddy when Musberger said McClain watched game film and immediately thought he was then the best MLB prospect ever. Regardless of the fact that the Albama defense let Texas back into the game and it was Shipley over the middle (McClain's area) that was making it happen. He's no better than Brandon Spikes, and he's not as good as Spikes in reading and reacting to the play and shooting the gaps to get to the ball. I like McClain a lot, but don't make him out to be Dick Butkus, Jack Lambert and Willie Lanier all rolled into one.

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At 5, we have to get a player that a rare prospect that has a chance at being an all pro at his position and make the team around him better and Okung isnt that guy. Not from what Ive seen.
So, who's that guy? That "rare" prospect that we'll get a chance at at five? Because if Berry is there, he is it. Otherwise, you get your pick of a lot of good players. McClain fits the system perhaps better than anyone else other than his teammate Cody, but he's not "rare."

Saccopoo 02-02-2010 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6500057)
I like how he posted a guy calling Okung safe as a positive. Lets get all jazzed up about a guy who is basically described as not being a great athlete or an elite prospect but he's safe. Drafting a black John Tait at 5 man lets get pumped!

If he's as good as Tait was, then he's well worth the #5 pick.

OnTheWarpath15 02-02-2010 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6500914)
Bullshit. Albert was a college guard. He was a complete and utter PROJECT at left tackle.

Wrong.

Someone doesn't understand that college skill-sets and pro level skill-sets aren't necessarily the same.

Every scout, writer, draftnik, talking head - all said that Albert's best position in the pros would be at LT.

Which is why he was taken 15th overall.

Show me the last guy that was drafted 15th or higher to specifically play guard.

OnTheWarpath15 02-02-2010 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6500915)
If he's as good as Tait was, then he's well worth the #5 pick.

ROFL

WildTurkey 02-02-2010 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6500915)
If he's as good as Tait was, then he's well worth the #5 pick.

you mean John Tait the right tackle?

Saccopoo 02-02-2010 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6500135)
She's divorced.

Evidence A that no matter how hot the chick, someone is sick of her shit.

Either that or she married some douchey schmuck of a guy who was equal to Haley Berry's husband (who cheated on her with some skank), Mutt Lange, who cheated on Shania Twain, even though he is an old, ugly as hell ate up roadie, Hugh Grant who decides to get a blow job from a street corner hooker rather than go home to Liz Hurley, or Kim Cattrell's ex-husband who thought he was such a lady killer that he'd try to make the moves on all her friends.

I'm glad it's always the chicks fault though.

OnTheWarpath15 02-02-2010 11:50 PM

A mod should re-name Saccopoo - "FindTheOkung"

Seriously, he's that bad.

Saccopoo 02-02-2010 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by WildTurkey (Post 6500346)
Okung wishes he was left handed like Tait ROFL

Dude, don't be stupid in an effort to make the "Don't draft a offensive lineman/Big 12 player ever" crowd think you are cool.

Tait was an excellent offensive lineman.

RustShack 02-02-2010 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6500915)
If he's as good as Tait was, then he's well worth the #5 pick.

:doh!:

OnTheWarpath15 02-02-2010 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6500927)
Dude, don't be stupid in an effort to make the "Don't draft a offensive lineman/Big 12 player ever" crowd think you are cool.

Tait was an excellent offensive lineman.

LMAO

So awesome that he went to a whopping TWO Pro Bowls, your so-called standard for success.


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