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OnTheWarpath15 02-08-2010 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6515640)
Why wouldn't you take a Lamarr Woodley with your round 1 pick? 10+ sacks a year when starting.

The question that needs to be answered first:

Could/would Lamar Woodley rack up 10+ sacks a year surrounded by the likes of our front 7?

philfree 02-08-2010 04:17 PM

[QUOTE=OnTheWarpath58;6516683]The question that needs to be answered first:

Could/would Lamar Woodley rack up 10+ sacks a year surrounded by the likes of our front 7?[/QUOTE

Well let's hope that we replace more than just one starter in our front seven. If we don't it won't be much different.

PhilFree:arrow:

AustinChief 02-08-2010 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6515422)
You couldn't play Graham on the SAM side as he lacks the hip turn and backpedal and sideline to sideline burst...you might be able to get away with him as a Mike, but I doubt it as he'd be a liability in mid-zone coverage, so all he really could do in a 3-4 is the ROLB spot.

And you know this how? You obviously haven't watched him play... so where do you get your info? (btw... what position does Hali play and what position does Woodley play? Here's a hint... NOT THE SAME ONE DUMBASS)

Also... you do know that until U-M put him at DE, Graham had played LB his entire career...

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In high school, Rivals.com ranked Graham as the top class of 2006 high school football prospect in the state of Michigan, the number two inside linebacker prospect and the overall fifteenth best prospect in the nation.<SUP id=cite_ref-15 class=reference>[16]</SUP> Scout.com listed him as the number three linebacker in the nation and described him as the number one overall prospect in the midwest.<SUP id=cite_ref-16 class=reference>[17]</SUP> Scout also described him as "arguably the best inside linebacker in the nation".<SUP id=cite_ref-17 class=reference>[18]</SUP> ESPNU ranked him as the number two inside linebacker and number thirty-one prospect in the nation.<SUP id=cite_ref-18 class=reference>[19]</SUP> Recruiting analyst Tom Lemming, listed Graham as the best linebacker in the country for USA Today.<SUP id=cite_ref-19 class=reference>[20]</SUP> The Atlanta Journal-Constitution listed him at 15th among their national top 25 prospects.<SUP id=cite_ref-20 class=reference>[21]</SUP>

AustinChief 02-08-2010 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DrRyan (Post 6516210)
I would probably take Graham. But, I would like to see how he does at his pro day standing up instead of from a three point stance. Admittedly, I did not see him play much at Michigan this year(some in the ND and OSU games).

See my post regarding his career as a standout linebacker before U-M

The Franchise 02-08-2010 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 6515430)
and, you obviously don't watch college football. bye.

There is so much ignorance in this post that I after this response I need to move to the next topic and hopefully not have to remind you of how idiotic you are being in this regard later.

To recap..

#1 his name is BRANDON Graham, not Daniel. ( I let this slide a few posts back)
#2 He spent his first year learning from Woodley... in a Lloyd Carr U-M team. And the next year under Carr again... (you REALLY don't watch college football do you?)
#3 What the **** is the Rich Rod "fun bunch" ? are you ****ing high? please elaborate upon this pulled out of your ass posit...
#4 you won't go into why he isn't Woodley because you CAN'T... please try... Woodley says Graham is Woodley, Graham says he is, damn near every scout says he is.. (except a few say he is Dumervil) ... his coaches say he is... but PLEASE explain why YOU know better than someone who has watched EVERY game both players have played(me) and every credible scout I have read.... if you have facts, tape, ANYTHING .. I'd love to hear it.
#5 your analysis of Graham is laughable at best... once again, please tell me which GAMES (not youtube clips) you have watched of him...

Lastly... IF you could pull your head out of your ass for a second and ADMIT that Graham is very likely a Woodley clone... can you HONESTLY say you wouldn't take Woodley(part 2) in a heartbeat with our 2a pick?(and feel you got a steal)

The funny thing is....is that he won't respond to your post. I called him out on shit in another thread and he just ignored it and moved on. Once he's been proven wrong....he moves onto something else.

The Bad Guy 02-08-2010 05:05 PM

I loved that Saccoshit just got owned by the ruler of Chiefsplanet.

AustinChief 02-08-2010 05:11 PM

In a perfect world, Berry would slip to us (barring shoulder concerns) then Graham falls to our 2a... and Washington (TCU) falls to our 3. Alot invested in the D, but all would contribute immediately.

(I'd take someone like Maurkice Pouncey with the 2b.. or best WR available)

Nightfyre 02-08-2010 08:24 PM

I'd like to see more of what Cam Thomas can do and if he's worth a shot for a NT in the third

Mr. Laz 02-09-2010 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6516094)
If Graham, Iupati and Cody are all on the board at 2a, who would you guys take?

Im taking Graham and trying like hell to package Atls 2b and other picks to move up to take either of the others.

1. Graham
2. Iupati
3. Cody

Graham gets the nod because of the position he plays

Chiefnj2 02-09-2010 11:27 AM

I think you take Cody because there is a good chance there will still be pass rushers available at the 2b pick. Other than Cody and Williams there don't appear to be that many good NT prospects.

BossChief 02-09-2010 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6518898)
I think you take Cody because there is a good chance there will still be pass rushers available at the 2b pick. Other than Cody and Williams there don't appear to be that many good NT prospects.

To me, all three would be homeruns.

Cody makes our run defense much much better after his first year (where if we draft him expect some drastic measures for the kid that might not go over well on the Planet because he will have a big adjustment period) he is a behemoth and if he gets motivated properly, he could be a all pro nose in the NFL.

Iupati would make JC lethal on those toss sweeps and would drastically improve our power running game. I am one of the few here that still values the line play and would love for him to be our 2a pick.

Graham is IMHO the best of the three because he would not only give us a pass rush opposite Hali which would make the secondarys job much easier, he is also stout against the run and could man our LOLB spot for years (unless part of his game would be a huge detriment to the needs of the position)

I hope they hit a homerun, I feel similarly to how I felt prior to the 08 draft which is proving to be a homerun IMHO. Any of these guys at 2a would be step in the right direction.

Tribal Warfare 02-09-2010 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6518898)
I think you take Cody because there is a good chance there will still be pass rushers available at the 2b pick. Other than Cody and Williams there don't appear to be that many good NT prospects.

Cam Thomas was dominate in the Senior Bowl, and lets not forget KC could go the FA route for a NT.

milkman 02-10-2010 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6515241)
**** you Milk. The douche asked me if any of the teams had a first round draft pick at offensive line. Period.

I answered "Jamaal Brown.", with the caveat of him being on IR the whole year. How is that in any way dishonest? I gave him the one guy that was a first round draft pick, with the qualifier that he was hurt the whole season.

And I'm the prick? For providing the information exactly how he wanted it?

So you're going to try to honestly convince anyone that you didn't know that he was talking specifically about the players on the OL that played and contributed this year.

As I said, you are an intellectually dishonest prick.

Anything to try and push your agenda.

Dickbreath.

milkman 02-10-2010 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6519756)
I am one of the few here that still values the line play and would love for him to be our 2a pick.

I value OL play, but I don't see the value of using the #5 pick a LT that doesn't offer any more potential that the LT we already have in place.

BossChief 02-10-2010 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6521458)
I value OL play, but I don't see the value of using the #5 pick a LT that doesn't offer any more potential that the LT we already have in place.

You wont find a single post anywhere of mine that disagrees with this statement one bit, but I would love for us to spend one of the seconds on Pouncey, Iupati, Johnson or another elite interior linemen.

Okung and a couple other OL are gonna be good players, but not great players and at 5 you have to take someone that has potential of being a great player.


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