ChiefsPlanet
Page 5 of 10 1234 5 6789 Last »
Show 80 post(s) from this thread on one page

ChiefsPlanet (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/index.php)
-   Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/forumdisplay.php?f=29)
-   -   If Berry is there and we pass (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=223384)

Mecca 02-13-2010 07:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 6530236)
No, there are 15 guys worth the pick based on past history of the draft. The trick is picking one of those 15 and not taking Ryan Sims, or Tyson Jackson.
I disagree with that, generally speaking there are a mere handful of guys worth top 5 picks, no matter how good Jackson ever becomes he will never be worth his pick which makes him a stupid pick.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-13-2010 07:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6530234)
Depends on the position the player plays, a great WR on a team with no QB well he's not gonna perform all that highly.

Don't worry though this team likely won't take Berry, we don't need any elite level playmakers.
Individuals go to the pro bowl, teams win championships.

You'll also notice that none of the final four teams this year had any pro bowlers.

BigCatDaddy 02-13-2010 07:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6530234)
Depends on the position the player plays, a great WR on a team with no QB well he's not gonna perform all that highly.

Don't worry though this team likely won't take Berry, we don't need any elite level playmakers.
Megatron has looked pretty good without a QB, but you are right to a degree.

If they take him I would love it, but to say every other player that could be drafted is fail is just wrong. I think that's the point everyone is trying to make. I don't love 1 player, I like Berry, I like Bradford, I like Graham and Williams right now. As always QB is the biggest gamble but I won't be butt hurt unless we do something as bad as the TJ thing again.

Mecca 02-13-2010 07:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6530241)
Individuals go to the pro bowl, teams win championships.

You'll also notice that none of the final four teams this year had any pro bowlers.
Just like the they all had lowly drafted bum QB's they had to sign or trade for and all ran the 3-4 too.

Mecca 02-13-2010 07:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 6530244)
Megatron has looked pretty good without a QB, but you are right to a degree.

If they take him I would love it, but to say every other player that could be drafted is fail is just wrong. I think that's the point everyone is trying to make. I don't love 1 player, I like Berry, I like Bradford, I like Graham and Williams right now. As always QB is the biggest gamble but I won't be butt hurt unless we do something as bad as the TJ thing again.
Pioli is going to draft McClain, just get use to that idea because it's very likely.

BigCatDaddy 02-13-2010 07:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6530238)
I disagree with that, generally speaking there are a mere handful of guys worth top 5 picks, no matter how good Jackson ever becomes he will never be worth his pick which makes him a stupid pick.
I disagree. I can go back through any draft from 3-4 years ago and pick out 15 guys that if they were taken number 5 you say good pick.

You get no arguement from me on Jackson. I really don't know what the hell that was all about.

Mecca 02-13-2010 07:13 PM
15 is a lot because in general value terms with contracts there are positions that aren't worth the pick let alone the player.

BigCatDaddy 02-13-2010 07:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6530241)
You'll also notice that none of the final four teams this year had any pro bowlers.
What?

Mecca 02-13-2010 07:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 6530256)
What?
He's being sarcastic about all that right 53 and teams win not players bullshit that Pioli was spouting.

BigCatDaddy 02-13-2010 07:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6530253)
15 is a lot because in general value terms with contracts there are positions that aren't worth the pick let alone the player.
If you are talking contact right out of the gate, no none of them are worth it, but if you just go back and say our team took x player at #5, then I can pull 15 guys from a draft where you give them an "A" for the pick 2-3 years down the road.

Mecca 02-13-2010 07:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 6530262)
If you are talking contact right out of the gate, no none of them are worth it, but if you just go back and say our team took x player at #5, then I can pull 15 guys from a draft where you give them an "A" for the pick 2-3 years down the road.
I'd love to see you do that, I'd be willing to bet you'd list several guys that I would never put that high regardles.

BigCatDaddy 02-13-2010 07:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6530258)
He's being sarcastic about all that right 53 and teams win not players bullshit that Pioli was spouting.
Ehhhh, it can be done that way I suppose, but I'll take the stars

BigCatDaddy 02-13-2010 07:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6530265)
I'd love to see you do that, I'd be willing to bet you'd list several guys that I would never put that high regardles.
When I have more time I'll give it a shot.

ILChief 02-13-2010 08:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6530185)
Nothing and I mean nothing is sadder than the people who honestly have more interest in hoping someone is wrong or looks dumb than the future of this team.

Whether you personally dislike me, Hamas or anyone else, this take is pure reerunation.
I don't dislike any of you as I don't know you. I just think it would be funny if everybody a player everybody is so against turned out to be great. Also, I don't see how the Chiefs drafting Okung and him being a HOF lineman would be bad for the future of the team.

RustShack 02-13-2010 08:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 6530217)
In your opinion, but odds are you are wrong as you admit. If the Chiefs go with say another player like Graham who isn't "rated into the top 10" and he turns into Demarcus Ware then that's a brillant move that we should be open to.
Are you stupid? Ware was a talented prospect with upside, Graham isn't. Graham is like what Hali was coming out, what you see is what you get. Sure he won't be a flop like some other players, but he wont be great either.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:45 AM.
Page 5 of 10 1234 5 6789 Last »
Show 80 post(s) from this thread on one page

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.