fixed your dumbass post.

Tyson Jackson had awful workouts.

20 BP Reps
17 on his Wonderlic
4.94 40
28.5" vertical
8'6" broad jump.

Further proof that the guy's a bum.

I wonder if the Chiefs would have taken him with Crennel around?

This backs up my statement that they really dont care about the combine (at least for certain positions) They must have seen a guy they fell involve with during his film.

TJ was Piolis statement that "we were gonna run a 3-4 defense" and "we are gonna focus on fixing our run defense first and foremost"

They had to see something in him that made them (and about every 3-4 team picking after us) want him in the top of the first round.

Are those numbers all that horrible for a 300 pounder? Not meaning to be a smart ass one bit, I cant find a site with past times on it and would like to see a comparison of his numbers as opposed to some of the better 5-tecs in the NFL to see how they match up. Only 20 reps is pretty astounding.

Dexter McCluchon (sp), all 5'8" and 172 lbs of him, did 20 reps at the combine today.

I know. And he matches up against tackles that can bench 225 at least 35 times.

Which continues to back up the fact that they're ****ing stupid and had THE worst draft in the entire history of the Chiefs franchise.

The Parcells guys are absolutely obsessed with size.

They have a weird attraction to measureables, but it's not 40 time, bench #s, vertical, 3 cone drill, or any of that shit.

They are averse to spending top picks on WRs (the only 1st rounder Parcells ever spent on a WR was Terry Glenn, and the Pats have never done it).

They love guys who are big with long arms. It's Parcells' dumb ****ing Planet Theory. Jackson got drafted at 3 because of the Planet Theory. They looked at his size (rather than his explosiveness) and his arm length (rather than his production) and figured that they could make him a good 5 technique.

In some ways, you could argue that the Parcells guys don't draft workout warriors, they draft tape measure warriors.

<table class="wikitable" style="font-size: 89%;"><tbody><tr><td colspan="20" align="center">Pre-draft measureables</td> </tr> <tr> <th>Ht</th> <th>Wt</th> <th>40-yard dash</th> <th>10-yd split</th> <th>20-yd split</th> <th>20-ss</th> <th>3-cone</th> <th>Vert</th> <th>Broad</th> <th>BP</th> <th>Wonderlic</th> </tr> <tr> <td align="center">6′4⅛″</td> <td align="center">296 lb</td> <td align="center">4.94</td> <td align="center">1.68</td> <td align="center">2.79</td> <td align="center">4.80</td> <td align="center">7.64</td> <td align="center">28½ in.</td> <td align="center">8′6″</td> <td align="center">20 rep</td> <td align="center">17</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="20" align="center"><small>Bench from LSU Pro Day, all others from NFL Combine</small></td></tr></tbody></table>

<table class="wikitable" style="font-size: 89%;"><tbody><tr><td colspan="11" align="center">Pre-draft measureables</td> </tr> <tr> <th>Ht</th> <th>Wt</th> <th>40-yard dash</th> <th>10-yd split</th> <th>20-yd split</th> <th>20 ss</th> <th>3-cone</th> <th>Vert</th> <th>Broad</th> <th>BP</th> <th>Wonderlic</th> </tr> <tr> <td align="center">6-2½ *</td> <td align="center">298 lb *</td> <td align="center">4.82 **</td> <td align="center">1.62 **</td> <td align="center">2.77 **</td> <td align="center">4.42 **</td> <td align="center">7.15 **</td> <td align="center">29½″ *</td> <td align="center">9′05″ **</td> <td align="center">30 *</td> <td align="center">15 *</td> </tr> </tbody></table> <small>(* represents NFL Combine ** represents Purdue Pro Day)</small>




<small>The top is Jackson, The bottom is Magee.
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The size thing is why I start cracking up laughing when anyone even suggests our team or the Pats would draft Brandon Graham.

rep, and thanks.

How do those numbers stack up to guy like Ty Warren or Seymour etc? Guys drafted to play a certain position in our specific defense. Being this is the first year we ran the scheme I didnt pay attention to that stuff much back then.

Similar size and weight. Seymour is 6'5" 300, Warren is 6'4".

One of the reasons why I posted that is to show how Jackson was outperformed by Magee in every area, was just as (more likely less) productive in college, and yet Jackson goes higher because of Pioli's obsession with size.

The Planet Theory (George Young actually coined it) only applies to 300 lb linemen... so it has nothing to do with Graham ... As a matter of fact it isn't relevant at all really. Simply stated, the theory is that there is a finite number of ATHLETIC 300 lb men on Earth... so when you come across them you covet them.

The theory(which I DO NOT subscribe to) is meant to encourage getting and keeping big guys who are superior athletes... so it would seem their measurables would come into play.

They apply it to the entire front 7, give me an undersized LB that has ever played for Parcells or a Parcells tree guy.

Brandon Graham's 6'1 height likely has him very low on the Chiefs board.

McClain has superior size..