The point is Mic we don't have enough picks to fill all the holes.

Very possible.

Beside the point though.

It comes down, again, to an idea that the Chiefs are standing pat while other franchises are setting themselves up nicely in FA. An idea which I honestly have no problem with... But Cleveland is NOT the example I would've used.

Again, with the absolutist dipshit tripe.

Did I say these transactions were the fulcrum by which their Super Bowl success will tip?

No.

When have I ever marginalized the importance of the draft? Ever?

At the same time, if you have holes at places like ted backer, right tackle, or backup RB, I'm in no way bothered with addressing much more important positions in the draft.

Again, you are forced to construct a strawman by assuming that this rebuild isn't a multi-year effort.

I don't give a **** if we don't draft a RT or Ted backer this year. I'd much rather invest valuable picks at impact positions. We have 10 picks and about 20 holes.

Not everything has to be fixed now, but if you can find guys like Pashos or Fujita to fill a hole for two years who will 1) play at a decent level and are 2) cheap, then you are working FA correctly.

Put please, continue inventing bullshit to sustain your argument.

sorry ... my post was just a general comment for everyone, not directed at you specifically.

Tell me, realistically, how many holes we absolutely need to fill?

Atogwae & Walters would have filled 2 holes nicely. Then I would fill the rest via the draft. Maybe sign a guy on the d-line thats a nice rotational player, the d-line is almost set.

Well, let me think about this for a second.

Let's see.

We need,

Center
RG
RT
Two Wrs
NT
Two ILBs
OLB
Two safeties
CB

We have,
A first
Two seconds,
A third
A Fourth
Two Fifths

In the draft.

You do the math.

QB, NT, Rush LB, Safety, ILB, KR/PR, C, RG, RT, WR, RB

I will give you Thomas Jones, he would be an exceptional pick up. (havent signed him yet) But I wouldnt put Fargas as a second tier guy.

it's frustrating that we seem to be determined to avoid spending any real money on free agency.

in new england they generally always cheaped by in FA and it was successful so Pioli thinks he can do the same thing here. I just don't see it.

Neither am I, but I'm certainly not going to flip shit about passing on a LB who's approaching 30. Not when there's a better, cheaper alternative available 7 weeks from now.

If I favor using the Draft over signing a 30-year LB I don't understand that it's going to take several years to rebuild this team? Got ya...
:rolleyes:

You do a fine job of that all on your own sir.

QB
RB2
WR2
WR3
C
RG
RT
NT
ILB (x2)
OLB
FS
SS

And that's just starters that desperately need to be upgraded. (Obviously not counting RB2)

I've advocated the draft as the only way to build a team that is a championship contender. However, I realize that draft picks do not always work, nor should you stop looking to other areas for help.

So, with that said:

Why sign a 32 year old Thomas Jones when you can sign a 27 year old Mike Bell to perform the same role (and suffer little to no drop off in production at a low price)?

Why not pursue a guy like OJ Atogwe, who is both of a reasonable age (28) and not pursuing a monster deal?

Why not look at a guy like Pashos for a couple million per year instead of investing that same amount in Ndukwe and O'Callaghan, both players we know can't play the position?

Why resign Mike Vrabel when he was a pouting bitch and a broke dick mother****er last year?

Why not look at a guy like Dwan Edwards, who is a cheap and ideal 2 gap DE, instead of some Patriots scrub like LeKevin Smith?

For the record, I'm giving Tamba Hali and Matt Cassel a pass in that list of needs.

I absolutely believe those are positions of need, but that is another debate entirely.

Well heres the thing when New England signed guys they took risks that paid off big. Signing Otagwe right now is a risk as he's injured. I think the tender on him is like 1.2 mil or something. I'd roll the dice and offer 3-4 mil per. If you land a safety of his caliber paying that much it's a steal.