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bevischief 03-11-2010 07:07 AM

QUOTE=FAX;6594400]I wonder if the dairy industry is currently checking for cows infected with M. paratuberculosis? It's one of the potential causes of Crohn's and, if milk is infected, it could possibly explain why so many people are having problems.

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Danman 03-11-2010 07:26 AM

Wow, you people are blowing this way out of proportion. Crohn's isn't that debilitating if controlled with medication. I'm an RN. This disease is usually a lot easier to control than diabetes, and there are several players that play productively with diabetes. Not getting drafted at all? Funny stuff.

Brock 03-11-2010 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Danman (Post 6594957)
Wow, you people are blowing this way out of proportion. Crohn's isn't that debilitating if controlled with medication. I'm an RN. This disease is usually a lot easier to control than diabetes, and there are several players that play productively with diabetes. Not getting drafted at all? Funny stuff.

I knew a guy who killed himself because of this disease.

Garcia Bronco 03-11-2010 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Danman (Post 6594957)
Wow, you people are blowing this way out of proportion. Crohn's isn't that debilitating if controlled with medication. I'm an RN. This disease is usually a lot easier to control than diabetes, and there are several players that play productively with diabetes. Not getting drafted at all? Funny stuff.

Crohns is completely unpredictable, Focker (:P). The medication has all kinds of side effects. Most of which are not condusive to an active lifestyle. He'll be playing in the NFL. It's a deal breaker.

Bottom line....he had to cut his pro day short because of it. He's a bad investment because of it. Doesn't mean he won't have a great life. Just not as an NFL football player.

The majority of Chrons patients require some kind of surgery at some point.

Garcia Bronco 03-11-2010 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6594297)
David Garrard has Crohn's disease. Has it really hampered him?

I don't know. All I can say is he's a very inconsistent QB.

Cosmos 03-11-2010 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Danman (Post 6594957)
Wow, you people are blowing this way out of proportion. Crohn's isn't that debilitating if controlled with medication. I'm an RN. This disease is usually a lot easier to control than diabetes, and there are several players that play productively with diabetes. Not getting drafted at all? Funny stuff.

Nothing is that debilitating if controlled by medication.......

Crohns and IBD are different in many folks and not eveyone is fortunate enough to have identified the right combination of meds to eliminate the majority of episodes. Over time some folks are bad enough to have had go thru surgery to remove the damaged areas of the intestinal/colon.

I am a parent of a child with Crohns. It's not an insignificant disease, even when managed thru meds. Flare-ups are debilitating, and she is not a football player.

Because McClain has Crohns, I wish him the best will all my heart. He sounds like a class guy.

Pants 03-11-2010 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Cosmos (Post 6594389)
My daughter has Crohns disease.

Im not picking on you, other than to inform you that it's a very debilitating disease, incurable to date, borderline manageable in the best instances.

Flare ups don't come and go in a day. It affects the bodys ability to absorb nutrients and many can lose a fair amount of blood in a bad episode.

It's not an insignificant illness to deal with.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to trivialize the disease. I realize it is serious and every case is unique. I just don't think he won't get drafted because of it. Once again, I humbly apologize.

Amnorix 03-11-2010 09:54 AM

From first to undrafted? He'd need to be dead. You guys seriously overvalue mid/late draft picks around here. Even if you average it out and say that he's out for two games per year because of this, if you think you'd have a VERY GOOD or great LB 14 games a year, that's easily worth a mid-round pick.

Heck, McGahee had his knee blown up in the worst way possible, and had some off-field issues (not too serious), and was still drafted #23 even though it was pretty much known he'd be out for his entire rookie year. I think he was drafted far too high and that the Bills screwed up, but jsut for comparison sake...

And besides that, teams these days aren't thinking "wonder if he'll be around in 8 years" when they make picks. Not outside the top 10 at least. It's kinda nonsensical.

DJ's left nut 03-11-2010 10:06 AM

If you get 3 years of plus play out of a 2nd round pick, you're ahead of the game.

So he may not finish up his rookie contract - so? How's that any different than 1/2 the guys drafted in the 2nd that wash out? And the financial outlay for a 2nd rounder is generally a drop in the bucket when compared with the revenues thrown around.

McClain with a 2 is an absolute no doubt pick, IMO. When you're in the position we're in, sometimes you have to gamble a little bit. This is a very acceptable gamble to take.

Extra Point 03-11-2010 10:11 AM

Wow. Just, wow! I hope McClain can play in the NFL, as he's a beast for playing at such a high level, while suffering with this illness.

Amnorix 03-11-2010 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 6593866)
Maybe. I wouldn't draft him and if the Broncos do I'll be pissed.

Heck of a statement. Let me ask this -- let's say you're looking at the 5th round picks over a certain period of time. Let's say 10 years. Let's say that the time frame stops 4 years ago, so you can assess what they've done as pros.

What do YOU expect that analysis to show in terms of these players performance/contribution/productivity?

FAX 03-11-2010 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Danman (Post 6594957)
Wow, you people are blowing this way out of proportion. Crohn's isn't that debilitating if controlled with medication. I'm an RN. This disease is usually a lot easier to control than diabetes, and there are several players that play productively with diabetes. Not getting drafted at all? Funny stuff.

Clearly, your experience with the disease is limited.

Mine, however, is not. I know persons who, after multiple surgeries, have had practically all of their intestines removed by the age of 26 and 28. Do you think you can play football with no intestines? You can't absorb basic nutrients.

Although the treatments have improved, there is no cure. The disease is (as believed) essentially auto-immune by nature. Surely, as an RN, you realize that auto-immune suppression, which is one of the treatments, can lead to even more problems in the form of serious infection?

I'm sorry, but you obviously don't know what you're talking about. What's worse is that people may believe you - and that can be dangerous. Please refrain from making public statements that can be harmful to others.

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Hydrae 03-11-2010 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6593852)
Because of Crohn's? Give me a break. When it flares, you do a course of Methotrexate and back to the field. How many times has it affected his play in college? Dude is getting drafted, I have no doubts about that.


That is some nasty stuff right there. My wife had an extremely bad case of psoriasis a couple of years ago (lost every inch of skin, every finger and toe nail, and most of her hair) that they treated with Methotrexate. I just know that she had to have a (I don't remember if it was kidney or liver) test every month to be sure it wasn't attacking the wrong things. After 6 months she had to come off of it to keep her systems from building it up.

Pants 03-11-2010 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Hydrae (Post 6595467)
That is some nasty stuff right there. My wife had an extremely bad case of psoriasis a couple of years ago (lost every inch of skin, every finger and toe nail, and most of her hair) that they treated with Methotrexate. I just know that she had to have a (I don't remember if it was kidney or liver) test every month to be sure it wasn't attacking the wrong things. After 6 months she had to come off of it to keep her systems from building it up.

Yeah, Psoriasis, much like Crohn's is an auto-immune disorder. I'm suprised they didn't treat her with Enbrel - that thing is pretty much like a nuclear strike on your immune system.

Mr. Laz 03-11-2010 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Danman (Post 6594957)
Wow, you people are blowing this way out of proportion. Crohn's isn't that debilitating if controlled with medication. I'm an RN. This disease is usually a lot easier to control than diabetes, and there are several players that play productively with diabetes. Not getting drafted at all? Funny stuff.

easier to control that diabetes??

this comment seems completely absurd to me, most cases of diabetes are completely and reliable controlled. It takes awareness and disclipine with your diet and shots but if you do it, you're good. Even if you don't you can "control" a bad diabetes bout pretty quickly and recover fast.

If crohn's decides to flare up there is little you can do and you can be down for awhile.

two completely different situations imo

Crohn's can be very unpredictable


i had a girlfriend with crohn's and have a relative with it


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