I know, it's not Smith's fault that our GM is like he is.


I am projecting my flustration at the messenger instead of the source. :)

Great QB, too bad he's a prick to women. As talented as he is, there's no room for his antics.

Would you be willing to trade the #5 pick for him all things considered? If not, and I'm guessing the answer is no, what do you think would be fair compensation at this point?

Put him in Oakland and he's either arrested again within 6 months, or the Raiders become a dangerous team the next few years.

He's young and he's a winner, which is something that's hard to come by, but he's also an idiot off the field. Even if he never raped anyone, he was doing stupid shit. Maybe this suspension will put his head on straight, but I'd be afraid, so I voted no.

However, I would feel much happier trading our pick for him and signing him to a long term contract than investing tons of money in some of the other draft options that have been discussed.

What do you mean rape issue behind him? Guys have gotten 40 years in prison for the same shit this ****ing ass clown has done. Where's the rehabilitation other than a fat ****ing paycheck to buy off the victims?

Rape issues behind him? Has he submitted himself to any psychological counseling? Has he worked in any battered women's shelters? What ****ing remorse has this one who sucks the penis shown and what has he done to show that his penchant for molesting women is in his past? Not one ****ing thing, that's what.

**** this ****ing dildo.

Straight up #5 for Ben? No for me. Ben and a swap of #5 for #18... then I would consider it.

If the options were "Roethlisberger or Okung/Williams", then I would change my vote to "yes".

Anything but a ****ing offensive tackle.

I don't like the guy as a person, but we should be considering it. I think he's worth it as a player. Although, we would have more leverage than the #5 straight up, IMO. 4-6 game suspension, they want to unload him, future risk, etc. We'd probably be able to get some picks back.

I fail to see how the one guy in the league who holds onto the ball longer than Matt Cassel would make this offense top notch behind our "stellar" offensive line and receiving corps.

whenever I read or hear the word "rapist" I can't help but think of Pulp Fiction.

or we could just draft a QB...

Well put.

They want a top 10 pick for a guy who is about to be suspended 4-6 games and apparently has a problem with keeping his dick in his pants?

Better call the Raiders, nobody else is that stupid.

This. :clap: