ChiefsPlanet

ChiefsPlanet (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/index.php)
-   Nzoner's Game Room (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/forumdisplay.php?f=1)
-   -   Chiefs Would Haley/Weis ever consider Croyle instead of Cassel? (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=229466)

Hammock Parties 06-13-2010 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 6818276)
People on this forum can throw for 400 yards in a game when you have Randy Moss over the top and Wes Welker running under routes all day. They weren't the best WR duo in the league or anything, that team was coming off a ****ing 18-1 season, like seriously, that Pats team was STACKED for Cassel.

Well, Cassel managed to throw for 300 yards in a game last year, in as bad a situation as Croyle has ever been in.

Croyle has never even had a 250-yard game, let alone 300.....if he throws for 400 in a game it will be because the game was fixed.

BigMeatballDave 06-13-2010 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6818291)
Well, Cassel managed to throw for 300 yards in a game last year, in as bad a situation as Croyle has ever been in.

Croyle has never even had a 250-yard game, let alone 300.....if he throws for 400 in a game it will be because the game was fixed.

You act like Croyle has had all kinds of playing time to show that he sucks. Due to Croyle being fragile, we have no idea what kind of QB he really is. We do know his arm is loaded with potential. That's it.

-King- 06-13-2010 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 6818276)
People on this forum can throw for 400 yards in a game when you have Randy Moss over the top and Wes Welker running under routes all day. They weren't the best WR duo in the league or anything, that team was coming off a ****ing 18-1 season, like seriously, that Pats team was STACKED for Cassel.

Tom Brady never had a 400 yard game with them.


Just sayin...
Posted via Mobile Device

Hammock Parties 06-13-2010 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCD (Post 6818301)
You act like Croyle has had all kinds of playing time to show that he sucks. Due to Croyle being fragile, we have no idea what kind of QB he really is. We do know his arm is loaded with potential. That's it.

He played what, 7, 8 games in 2007? Didn't do much of anything.

Next year he comes out and does squat, just gets hurt.

Last year he comes out and proves he is just good enough to lose a game where defense and special teams hands him 14 points.

Based on the evidence he's pretty much a big bag of meh, and we have no reason to believe in him over someone who has actually WON GAMES.

vailpass 06-13-2010 03:21 PM

Glass-jaw Brokie? Seriously? Will KC consider picking up Quinn when Denver cuts him?

milkman 06-13-2010 03:46 PM

In some ways I agree GoChiefs.

Croyle's game against Baltimore wasn't as impresssive as some here seem to think.

And Cassel's best game, all factors considered was against Pittsburg, and it was more impressive than Croyle's one game.


I also think that Croyle does play tentative as a result of the piss poor coaching he received under Herman ****ing Edwards and staff.

Where I disagree is that I don't don't think he's permanently damaged by Herman ****ing Edwards and good coaching can fix him.

The problem, however, still remains his fragility.

Hammock Parties 06-13-2010 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6818333)

Where I disagree is that I don't don't think he's permanently damaged by Herman ****ing Edwards and good coaching can fix him.

Four years in the league now.

If Haley don't fix him, no one will.

Psyko Tek 06-13-2010 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 6818230)
These are two very differrent questions:
Would Haley go with Croyle over Cassel if Croyle has a better training camp?
Would Haley/Weis ever consider Croyle instead of Cassel?

I do believe Haley would start Croyle over Cassel but I do not believe it would happen game one, unless Cassel were injured. Based on the trade and the contract, Cassel will start game one- wouldn't even matter if every single pass he throws between now and game one is an interception returned for a touchdown. Cassel will start the season.

this
piloi won't let them

I think the coaches will play anybody for a win

Chief Roundup 06-13-2010 04:00 PM

I can't help but wonder if maybe he put on 10 lbs since he was drafted or especially under Haleys condition program? If he has or would I bet that muscle would definitely help his ability to stay healthy.

Coogs 06-13-2010 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 6818343)
Four years in the league now.

If Haley don't fix him, no one will.

Which is right where Cassel and Rodgers were when they got their careers off to a start. One with great results so far, one not so much.

SAUTO 06-13-2010 04:53 PM

actually cassel threw for back to back 400 yard games for NE. and his best game last year was against pitt.

how many times did cassel bring us back in the last 5 minutes last season?

for all the 25 yard hail mary jokes, croyle was AT LEAST as bad at the end of the ravens game. again that was AT LEAST, imo it could have been worse
Posted via Mobile Device

Sweet Daddy Hate 06-13-2010 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 6818221)
And that's a big ****ing part of being a qb.


I don't give a **** about a IR hall of famer.
Posted via Mobile Device

And I don't give a **** about a Garbage-Time HOF'er.

Pablo 06-13-2010 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROR (Post 6818469)
And I don't give a **** about a Garbage-Time HOF'er.

At least that QB has a strong enough body to make it to the garbage time of the game.

Brodie is our Bob Sanders.

"THE BEST QB TO NEVER PLAY THE GAMES".

Sweet Daddy Hate 06-13-2010 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PostRockPablo (Post 6818474)
At least that QB has a strong enough body to make it to the garbage time of the game.

Brodie is our Bob Sanders.

"THE BEST QB TO NEVER PLAY THE GAMES".

As far as I'm concerned, they can BOTH go do community service in the AIDS-Tree nursery.

Pablo 06-13-2010 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROR (Post 6818480)
As far as I'm concerned, they can BOTH go do community service in the AIDS-Tree nursery.

You really think Brodie's cut out for manual labor?

He'd pop his shoulder out of place lifting the very first jug of antifreeze.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:28 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.