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Fish 06-16-2010 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 6825929)
Somewhat off subject here, but i don't think i wanna make a thread about it either.

Lets say, oh...20 years from now we develop a way to time travel. We time travel back 10,000 years into the past. While we are in the past, one of out time travelers drop a Year 2030 Nickel.

Then, in the year 2011, archeoligists discover this nickel.

Would the nickel be determined to be from the past, or the future? What would Carbon Dating show? How would this nickel fit in with any other artifacts from that area in that time period? How would that nickel change the future?

A nickel contains no carbon in which to date... the nickel changes nothing and the experiment is a failure...

ToxSocks 06-16-2010 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 6825952)
A nickel contains no carbon in which to date... the nickel changes nothing and the experiment is a failure...

So then would it just be considered an artifact from 10,000 years ago with a year 2030 date and American scripture on it?

Would it show as evidence of time travel, or would we just dismiss it?

Rain Man 06-16-2010 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 6825929)
Somewhat off subject here, but i don't think i wanna make a thread about it either.

Lets say, oh...20 years from now we develop a way to time travel. We time travel back 10,000 years into the past. While we are in the past, one of out time travelers drop a Year 2030 Nickel.

Then, in the year 2011, archeoligists discover this nickel.

Would the nickel be determined to be from the past, or the future? What would Carbon Dating show? How would this nickel fit in with any other artifacts from that area in that time period? How would that nickel change the future?


And what would happen if the nickel was found by a peasant, invested in an aggressive bond fund for the next 9,800 years, and the wealth was used by the finder's descendant to fund the widescale marketing and sales of pocketless pants, which were then worn by the guy who dropped the nickel in the first place except now he wouldn't drop the nickel because it wasn't ever in his pocket?

Fish 06-16-2010 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 6825957)
So then would it just be considered an artifact from 10,000 years ago with a year 2030 date and American scripture on it?

Would it show as evidence of time travel, or would we just dismiss it?

It would be considered an artifact from the past. They wouldn't be able to tell any past age as far as I know.

I don't know how one would detect evidence of time travel. But carbon dating wouldn't really work to tell time travel like you're describing. An object would show the carbon decay over it's own lifetime, regardless of where it was on the timeline.

Gonzo 06-16-2010 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6825662)
His anus is pretty big, I hear.

Anus jokes ftl.
You're more clever than that, (I hope).

Now, toss my e-salad.
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LaChapelle 06-16-2010 05:21 PM

Is this another thread about Clayton

Jenson71 06-16-2010 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6824460)
If you believe in Dan's Brown theory, which is put forth in his latest novel "The Solomon Key", the Ancient Mysteries also include the forgotten and long lost power of the human mind and "collective consciousness".

He basically states that human beings when focusing on one event, whether it be prayer or moving 500 ton stones, can accomplish God-like "miracles" with the power of the human mind.

I just finished reading that (The Lost Symbol). He talked a lot about the Noetic Science stuff figuring this out again. There is such a thing as Noetic Science.

But . . . that's just not how atoms work like we can tell they do. I think it would be cool if it did work, but consider me a serious skeptic.

bowener 06-18-2010 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 6825929)
Somewhat off subject here, but i don't think i wanna make a thread about it either.

Lets say, oh...20 years from now we develop a way to time travel. We time travel back 10,000 years into the past. While we are in the past, one of out time travelers drop a Year 2030 Nickel.

Then, in the year 2011, archeoligists discover this nickel.

Would the nickel be determined to be from the past, or the future? What would Carbon Dating show? How would this nickel fit in with any other artifacts from that area in that time period? How would that nickel change the future?

Well, as far as dating goes (can't be done, but lets say there is a way), the Nickel would show that it was 11,980 years old since it will have existed through that length of time. Now it is somewhat about semantics as far as being from the future or past. If we knew it was from the future I suppose it would be just that, a nickel that was created in 2030 but then left in the past. If we did not know it was from us in the future then I would assume we would say that it was from ~12,000 years ago.

ToxSocks 06-18-2010 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bowener (Post 6830613)
Well, as far as dating goes (can't be done, but lets say there is a way), the Nickel would show that it was 11,980 years old since it will have existed through that length of time. Now it is somewhat about semantics as far as being from the future or past. If we knew it was from the future I suppose it would be just that, a nickel that was created in 2030 but then left in the past. If we did not know it was from us in the future then I would assume we would say that it was from ~12,000 years ago.

Even though it was dated to the year 2030 and looked like a modern coin and had refrences to modern America?

-King- 06-20-2010 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Lundberg (Post 6824718)
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Yeah, this makes a lot of sense, except one thing. How did he get the pebble underneath that block?

Goldmember 06-20-2010 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 6832786)
Yeah, this makes a lot of sense, except one thing. How did he get the pebble underneath that block?

duh, he dug under it :)

-King- 06-20-2010 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Goldmember (Post 6832792)
duh, he dug under it :)

I'm lost. He did it on concrete. He cant dig through the concrete.

Goldmember 06-20-2010 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 6832794)
I'm lost. He did it on concrete. He cant dig through the concrete.

some things just can't be explained

Valiant 06-20-2010 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 6825862)
You'll change your tune when archaeologists dig up that big-ass ancient crane, Mr. Stewie.

Anyhow, have you ever seen the NOVA sponsored experiment and documentary in which a gaggle and a half of EngDs, master stonemasons, and Egyptologists attempted to quarry, transport, and elevate a 35 ton obelisk (not one of those 500 ton ones ... just a teensy one) using the materials and techniques the ancient Egyptians are believed to have used? The whole idea was to prove that it could be done.

It was very funny ... hilarious, really. A bunch of sweaty PhDs trying to screw a rock. They got nowhere. They couldn't even cut the stone, let alone move it an inch.

FAX

Funny, that old guy a couple videos up did it by himself.. Sometimes the easiest answer is the hardest..

Valiant 06-20-2010 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 6832786)
Yeah, this makes a lot of sense, except one thing. How did he get the pebble underneath that block?

I am guessing those wooden clamps.. Or hammer a wedge underneath it to insert the stone..


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