Um, you clearly don't get it.

If the Chiefs want to compete, they cannot blow the #3 overall pick.

Hence, another 4-12 or 5-11 season on the horizon.

2009 was quite possibly the worst year in franchise history in terms of acquiring personnel. Free agency was grim and the draft, outside of a kicker, was atrocious.

You can't win a championship by blowing off an entire year, especially one in which you pick Top 3 in every round.

IF Tyson Jackson was Richard Seymour part two, this defense would look much differently.

vacuum

You can blow the #3 pick and still compete if you hit on a couple of other ones and do a decent job in free agency. It is just much easier to hit on a top 5 pick than a 4th round one.

For instance if Cassel played up to his contract the Chiefs would be more than competing. The top teams in the league have all missed on some of their first rounders.

This is bullshit.

First off, you're speaking in hypotheticals. The 2009 Chiefs draft was in reality, a pile of steaming dogshit. They grabbed ONE player that made an impact, the last player in the draft. A player that wasn't even necessary because Connor Barth showed as much promise as Succop and Succop had never kicked in the NFL.

Big ****ing IF. If the Chiefs had selected Rey Mauluga, the defense would be much further along. We can play the "IF" game all day. It won't change the past.

Really? Name the misses by current "top teams" like Pittsburgh, the NY Giants, the Patriots, San Diego, Green Bay, etc.

None of those teams were picking in the Top Five in consecutive years, so your statement is even less valid.

I don't think it's bullshit, necessarily.

If Cassel was a kick ass, franchise QB, this would go a long way toward covering the Tyson Jackson wart. Yeah, it would still be tragic to **** up a very important pick, but we could overcome it.

Naturally, you're right because this is all make believe, and this is unfortunate.

This is the point I was trying to make, and I agree with Dane that the 2009 draft was horrible.

Of course I'm speaking in hypotheticals, that is what everyone does when they talk about changing the past picks/signings.

Larry English isn't starting for the Chargers (infact Cason is the only starter they have from their #1 picks from '06-'09)

Evander Hood isn't tearing it up for the Steelers (1st rounder in '09 isn't starting how will they survive?) and how about Limas Sweed? Justin Harrel - Packers

Once again, more silly comparisons.

Neither the Chargers, Packers or Steelers are coming off of 4-12 and 2-14 seasons. Their respective rosters are loaded with talent, not talent depleted.

The Chiefs absolutely need massive production from their 2009 draft, especially from the #3 overall pick. To date, they've gotten extremely minimal production and no signs of that changing.

As far as Ziggy Hood's concerned, I think he'll be a much better 5-tech than TyJack. If you believe Peter King's camp reports, he's been tearing it up and they'll have a difficult time keeping him off the field this upcoming season.

You can blow the third overall pick and be successful? Who is this dumbass?

there were reports of all the teams picking after us taking Tyson if he were available AFTER the draft. Nobody thought he was a logical pick at #3 (or anywhere in the top ten) overall BEFORE the draft.

Sims wasn't a surprise when we took him is what Im saying...Tyson was. Couple that with the fact that Tyson was #3 overall and Sims was #6 and you have quite a bit more expectations for the #3 pick...especially when a franchise quarterback, true #1 receiver, a great nose prospect and franchise pass rusher were readily available at the pick.

Sims had three sacks, a pick, a forced fumble and a recovered fumble to go along with 35 tackles in his second year...right now, if Tyson Jackson hit that stat line for next year even I would be surprised.

You are right.

You asked a question and cited specific teams. I took those teams and listed some 1st round misses over the last 1-4 years. I was silly to pick those teams (that you requested) to show 1st round draft misses.

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In theory, you can miss on the #3 pick and still survive, although it never helps to sink gobs of money into a guy that doesn't produce. However, what makes it worse for the Chiefs is that they pissed away LOTS of picks in the first three rounds, and lots of them were on the D-Line (TJack, Sims, Tank, Turk, Siavii, arguably Dorsey). When you miss on half or more of your first round picks, then that #3 pick takes on a shitload more importance and urgency. Thank God and all that is holy that the Berry pick is so far, so good.

So, you're proclaiming that Larry English and Ziggy Hood are misses?

Wut.

As I recall, the Chargers elevation came on the heels of several top 5 picks. LT in '01, Jammer (who I'd call a bust) in '02 and Rivers (for Manning at #1) in '04.

The Packers took AJ Hawk at 5 in '06 (after a 4-12 season). They've managed to turn out okay despite that poor decision. Point being, it would obviously help if Jackson turned into something, but the Chiefs can survive it, and survive the way the '09 draft is turning out, but they can't have any more speed bump offseasons like that. It doesn't have to be the end of the world, and '10 is looking like a good start so far.

That's not true; Jared Allen is a beast.