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milkman 08-29-2010 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 6962929)
Then there's also this:

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...rt=nfl&id=3138

According to ESPN's Chris Mortensen, the Cardinals see some "Kurt Warner qualities" in undrafted rookie QB Max Hall.
Hall has a been a "tremendous surprise" outplaying fellow rookie John Skelton throughout camp, and it wouldn't be surprising to see him with a couple of spot starts late in the season. Mort joins NFL Network's Mike Lombardi in speculating that Matt Leinart won't be on the final roster because the Cardinals don't want to lose one of the rookies on waivers.

Yeah, I can't see the Cards going into the season with two rookies backing up Anderson.

RealSNR 08-29-2010 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6962939)
Yeah, I can't see the Cards going into the season with two rookies backing up Anderson.

I think the Cardinals maybe see this as not so much a rebuild but a "retool". They're switching offensive styles and got rid of a few of their expensive stars on defense. It wouldn't be out of the question for them to go this route.

Green Bay backed up Aaron Rodgers' first year as a starter with rookies Matt Flynn and Brian Brohm.

Deberg_1990 08-29-2010 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cool han Luke (Post 6962894)
Haleys job is not on the line with how Matt Cassel plays.


You dont think so?? What if they start off 1-7 again like last year?

Pioli will be around forever, but Haley has to prove this year he can build something. This isnt Bill Parcells we are talking about....its Todd Haley.

DaneMcCloud 08-29-2010 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 6962958)
What if they start off 1-7 again like last year?

If?

splatbass 08-29-2010 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 6962958)
You dont think so?? What if they start off 1-7 again like last year?

Pioli will be around forever, but Haley has to prove this year he can build something. This isnt Bill Parcells we are talking about....its Todd Haley.

I think if they are 1-7 because the whole team sucks Haley might be in trouble. If we are 1-7 only because Cassell sucks I doubt it. Why would they fire Haley because the QB he didn't choose (and probably didn't even want to start) sucks?

This whole "if Cassell sucks Haley will get fired" shit is ridiculous. Just pure speculation. Pioli chose Cassell, not Haley.

Bane 08-29-2010 05:27 PM

The Cardinals are in the same boat as we are at QB.They're stuck with a bunch of dumpster QB's,and ****ed blind for sitting on Leinart and not bringing in a real life NFL caliber QB.
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Coogs 08-30-2010 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6962595)
Leinart isn't a fit here either, he's a WCO QB through and through, he's doesn't have Cassel's accuracy problems he just doesn't have the natural arm strength to zip out passes.

I watched the Cards/Bears game. I'm not well versed in all the plays of every offense, but Leinart threw the ball very well. Most passes were not real long throws, but a couple were 10 to 12 yards down field and right on the money. Those types of throws... which we throw as well... would be somewhat reminicant of the WCO, would they not? Plus he looked smooth and confident running the offense, which Cassel does not at all IMO. :shrug:

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-30-2010 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bane_58 (Post 6963020)
The Cardinals are in the same boat as we are at QB.They're stuck with a bunch of dumpster QB's,and ****ed blind for sitting on Leinart and not bringing in a real life NFL caliber QB.
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LMAO I like it.

Bane 08-30-2010 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ROR (Post 6964266)
LMAO I like it.

Just the way I see it man. Based on their roster aside from Qb,I could see them making a playoff push.Add in their QB's and I'll be surprised if they win 7 games.Maybe if Anderson settles in and picks his game up they stand a chance. I stand on Leinart being a shit-tastic Qb and if they go with him at starter they will fail terribly!

Rasputin 08-30-2010 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 6962958)
You dont think so?? What if they start off 1-7 again like last year?

Pioli will be around forever, but Haley has to prove this year he can build something. This isnt Bill Parcells we are talking about....its Todd Haley.

Pioli & Haley are in a partnership with this team, if you listened to Pioli when he hired Haley. If Weis can't get Cassel to do better then it's all on Cassel.

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-30-2010 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Cool han Luke (Post 6964280)
Pioli & Haley are in a partnership with this team, if you listened to Pioli when he hired Haley. If Weis can't get Cassel to do better then it's all on Cassel.

Oh, to be a fly on the wall in those Coaches meetings regarding the QB...

Coogs 08-30-2010 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ROR (Post 6964287)
Oh, to be a fly on the wall in those Coaches meetings regarding the QB...

I don't think they have faith in Cassel. Haley said in his presser sometime this weekend, that what we saw is the way it is going to be. If we win, it is going to be winning "ugly". There are not going to be any pretty wins for quite some time, and if that is your expectation, then you are going to be disappointed.

To me that sounds like they know Cassel ain't all that.

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-30-2010 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 6964297)
I don't think they have faith in Cassel. Haley said in his presser sometime this weekend, that what we saw is the way it is going to be. If we win, it is going to be winning "ugly". There are not going to be any pretty wins for quite some time, and if that is your expectation, then you are going to be disappointed.

To me that sounds like they know Cassel ain't all that.

Yeah, and Waters and Albert need to get their heads on too. Some of those whiffs are just downright disgusting.

Coogs 08-30-2010 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ROR (Post 6964302)
Yeah, and Waters and Albert need to get their heads on too. Some of those whiffs are just downright disgusting.

So you see Cassel as Peyton Manning... but Albert and Waters are raining on his parade?

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-30-2010 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 6964304)
So you see Cassel as Peyton Manning... but Albert and Waters are raining on his parade?

Oh hell no. I'm just saying it doesn't help matters overall.


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