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TheGuardian 09-29-2010 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ROR (Post 7049563)
Yes, prior to acquiring more personnel this year suited for the 3-4, 2009 Chiefs Defense was a RAGING success!!!!!

Who?

Shaun Smith? That's it?

Stupid mother ****ers here are STILL saying that Dorsey is out of position, even though he himself has said this defense and this position is more similar to what he did in college.

Who is it that we got this offseason that made the transition so much easier?

We inserted two inside guys at linebacker that were already here. The defensive line hasn't changed except for adding Smith.

Do you ever know WTF you're talking about?

DaneMcCloud 09-29-2010 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7049616)
Who?

Shaun Smith? That's it?

Stupid mother ****ers here are STILL saying that Dorsey is out of position, even though he himself has said this defense and this position is more similar to what he did in college.

Who is it that we got this offseason that made the transition so much easier?

We inserted two inside guys at linebacker that were already here. The defensive line hasn't changed except for adding Smith.

Do you ever know WTF you're talking about?

Eric Berry, Javier Arenas and Kendrick Lewis disagree (as does Cameron Sheffield but he's on IR).

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-29-2010 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 7049616)
Who?

Shaun Smith? That's it?

Stupid mother ****ers here are STILL saying that Dorsey is out of position, even though he himself has said this defense and this position is more similar to what he did in college.

Who is it that we got this offseason that made the transition so much easier?

We inserted two inside guys at linebacker that were already here. The defensive line hasn't changed except for adding Smith.

Do you ever know WTF you're talking about?

Oh dear God STFU.

SenselessChiefsFan 09-29-2010 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 7048942)
Nice. Didn't realize that. He actually seems to be a better OLB than DE. He was absolutely swallowed by LTs at DE

This. I said it at the time, and I continued to get blasted for it. If you put him at DE, OT's can get their hands on him and limit his effectiveness. You let him get the a step before he takes on the OT, and he can use his athleticism to beat his guy. Lighten him up by 20lbs or so, and he is even more quick.

SenselessChiefsFan 09-29-2010 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ROR (Post 7049563)
Yes, prior to acquiring more personnel this year suited for the 3-4, 2009 Chiefs Defense was a RAGING success!!!!!

This isn't a very solid point. The front seven is pretty much intact from last year. And, if TJ hadn't gotten hurt, Smith wouldn't even be starting.

The guys are just growing in this defense and the DC is MUCH improved.

SenselessChiefsFan 09-29-2010 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7049628)
Eric Berry, Javier Arenas and Kendrick Lewis disagree (as does Cameron Sheffield but he's on IR).

The front seven is pretty much the same. If TJ weren't injured, Smith wouldn't be starting.

DaneMcCloud 09-29-2010 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 7049646)
This isn't a very solid point. The front seven is pretty much intact from last year.


Bullshit.

DJ wasn't a full time starter, neither was Belcher. Tyson Jackson has been outplayed by a former undrafted free agent in Shaun Smith. Additionally, Arenas has been far more effective in the nickel and our safety play isn't even close.

The Chiefs entered the season with Turk McBride at linebacker and Tank Tyler at nose tackle, along with Corey Mays and Demorrio Williams as the starting linebackers (and Leggett at nickle and sometimes at CB).

Your point is invalid.

As usual.

DaneMcCloud 09-29-2010 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 7049651)
The front seven is pretty much the same.

Bullshit

SenselessChiefsFan 09-29-2010 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7049654)
Bullshit.

DJ wasn't a full time starter, neither was Belcher. Tyson Jackson has been outplayed by a former undrafted free agent in Shaun Smith. Additionally, Arenas has been far more effective in the nickel and our safety play isn't even close.

The Chiefs entered the season with Turk McBride at linebacker and Tank Tyler at nose tackle, along with Corey Mays and Demorrio Williams as the starting linebackers (and Leggett at nickle and sometimes at CB).

Your point is invalid.

As usual.


DJ and Belcher were here. Smith has outplayed TJ from last year, but not this year. All but Smith in the front seven were here last year.

And, Dorsey and Hali are two of the Chiefs best players on defense, and I believe you said neither could play in this defense.

So, yeah, adding in ONE free agent just magically changed the entire front seven. I guess whatever you need to tell yourself to avoid the fact that you are a dumbass.

philfree 09-29-2010 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ROR (Post 7049563)
Yes, prior to acquiring more personnel this year suited for the 3-4, 2009 Chiefs Defense was a RAGING success!!!!!

Who did we acquire? Shaun Smith and who else? Smith is doing great but our front 7 is comprised of players who were here last year save Smith. Jackson was the seasons starter though.

The 2009 Chiefs D sucked but making the change to the 3-4 last year was the thing to do. It's benifited Hali and Dorsey tremendously. Our D wouldn't be where it is now if the change hadn't been made last year. Out ILBs are much better for it too.

Our front 7 has been playing well. Much improved from last year!

PhilFree:arrow:

DaneMcCloud 09-29-2010 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 7049664)
DJ and Belcher were here. Smith has outplayed TJ from last year, but not this year. All but Smith in the front seven were here last year.

You're full of shit. DJ and Belcher were not consistent starters, whether they were "here" or not. TJ looked to be improved against SD but he's still not on the same level as smith.

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 7049664)
And, Dorsey and Hali are two of the Chiefs best players on defense, and I believe you said neither could play in this defense.

More ****ing bullshit.

BullshitChiefsfan. That's your new screen name.

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 7049664)
So, yeah, adding in ONE free agent just magically changed the entire front seven. I guess whatever you need to tell yourself to avoid the fact that you are a dumbass.

You're a ****ing reerun.

DaneMcCloud 09-29-2010 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 7049708)
Our front 7 has been playing well. Much improved from last year!

Three things:

1. Another year in the system and three new starters in the front seven.
2. Far better play from the safety position (which is HUGE).
3. Competent defensive line coach and defensive coordinator.

Mecca 09-29-2010 07:46 PM

Derrick Johnson is probably already approaching the amount of snaps he played for the entire last season.

Saul Good 09-29-2010 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7049628)
Eric Berry, Javier Arenas and Kendrick Lewis disagree (as does Cameron Sheffield but he's on IR).

I guess Arenas is a 3-tech, right?

philfree 09-29-2010 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7049721)
Three things:

1. Another year in the system and three new starters in the front seven.
2. Far better play from the safety position (which is HUGE).
3. Competent defensive line coach and defensive coordinator.

I agree. And it's in the 2nd year of our 3-4 not the 1st.


PhilFree:arrow:


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