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donkhater 10-27-2010 07:08 AM

BTW, the guy KC is facing this weekend, Fitzpatrick, is second in the league in passer rating. Over the last four games he's done it against defenses like NE, NYJ and Baltimore, two of those on the road.

I see another suspect day for KC's pass defense this Sunday. Luckily, they can't run the ball much and their defense is the worst in the league. As long as KC doesn't turn it over, they should pull it out, but Buffalo can score points. Gailey has a more talented Thigpen playing QB with two good WRs to throw to.

Hammock Parties 10-27-2010 07:11 AM

He had a shitty game against the Jets.

New England's defense sucks.

We're crushing this team to a bloody pulp.

Alton deFlat 10-27-2010 07:11 AM

KFDMC

Frazod 10-27-2010 07:15 AM

Cassel at his Dilferish best, which is the best we can hope for.

manjy90 10-27-2010 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie (Post 7122742)
Defense, running games, and game manager at qb who doesn't make mistakes. The 2000 Ravens. The 2001 Patriots. The 2002 Bucs all used the formula. But I am a committed follower of Cassaholics Anonymous so Cassel sucks.

Our defense is nowhere near the quality of those teams', but our run game is significantly better so it'll be interesting to see how this team turns out a few years down the line.

HemiEd 10-27-2010 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7122135)
The O-Line is improved and providing better protection, but the primary reason he isn't taking sacks is because Weis has him getting teh ball out much quicker than he did last year.

He has been subject to taking a lot of sacks in the past, not only in KC, but in New England as well, because he held the ball for far too long.

Agreed, and he did have a relapse early in the Jax game.

BigChiefFan 10-27-2010 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 7122729)
Yeah, but...

:D

Red Brooklyn 10-27-2010 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 7121834)
He has gotten the job done against some atrocious defenses.


That is exactly what he needs to do. I have been very happy with his performance, even in the game against the Texans.

Excellent post, sir.

And I reluctantly agree. I had made up my mind to completely give up on Cassel. But, horrid D's or not, he's actually done just about everything he's needed to do the last few weeks. He hasn't been completely mistake free, but he's been disaster free. And he's looked like he knows what he's doing, for the most part.

I hope he builds on it. Like we've all said, I'd love nothing more than the dude to become a serious stud.

KCrockaholic 10-27-2010 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by </post> (Post 7122525)
Another Interesting Stat:

His 153 pass attempts is the lowest total for quarterbacks that haven't split time or missed significant playing time. As a team, only Pittsburgh has a lower total.

I think a large part of that is the dominance of our ground attack. However, I also think its telling that are not trusting him with the ball more often.

Well when you lead the NFL in rushing attempts, you will most likely have fewer pass attempts as well.

KCrockaholic 10-27-2010 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 7122732)
Another example of stats not telling the whole story.

More deserving of mention is that he seems to get a little better every week. Granted it has been against bad defenses, but you have to play well vs the bad ones before you can play well vs the good ones.

I like this thought the best.

Lzen 10-27-2010 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 7121951)
I don't want to take much away from him - he's played reasonably well the last couple weeks. However, you have to consider the huge impact that interceptions have on QB rating. They've got him trained to only throw pretty safe throws, so he's not being intercepted. And that's what the coaches want.

I would LIKE to see us throw down field more often, but hey, if they can make the short stuff work with our running game, I can't complain.

Pretty much my thoughts as well.

Lzen 10-27-2010 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 7122114)
So what you're saying is if a qb isn't under pressure he'll do better.


Whew.

That's a relief, lol.

While that was a "duh" statement, it is accurate. The difference in sacks from last year to this year is amazing. I often wondered last year if that poor line play might ruin any chance the guy had at becoming a serviceable NFL QB. And the preseason and first couple weeks of this season looked like that was the case. But he has played well recently. I will cut him some slack....for now.

Lzen 10-27-2010 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs (Post 7122760)
He had a shitty game against the Jets.

New England's defense sucks.

We're crushing this team to a bloody pulp.

Yeah, pretty much.

vs NYJ at Buffalo:

12-27, 128yards 44.4%, 2 TDs 0 INTs, sacked 3 times.

New England's defense is ranked #29 in the NFL. Their pass defense is #30.

BigRedChief 10-27-2010 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 7123208)
While that was a "duh" statement, it is accurate. The difference in sacks from last year to this year is amazing. I often wondered last year if that poor line play might ruin any chance the guy had at becoming a serviceable NFL QB. And the preseason and first couple weeks of this season looked like that was the case. But he has played well recently. I will cut him some slack....for now.

Leads the league in QB% and you'll cut him some slack LMAO for what? a week?:)

milkman 10-27-2010 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 7122749)
...interesting, considering the HC has made it clear we want to be team that can run the ball, despite the fan base's desire for Cassel to be an elite, game changing QB...

I don't give a rat's ass if we run the ball 60 times a game, I want to have confidence that the QB can make plays when it comes to him needing to make plays, and we haven't seen any evidence to suggest that he can do that.

I'm talking about late game situations when he needs to make a pass to win, or seal a win.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 7123208)
While that was a "duh" statement, it is accurate. The difference in sacks from last year to this year is amazing. I often wondered last year if that poor line play might ruin any chance the guy had at becoming a serviceable NFL QB. And the preseason and first couple weeks of this season looked like that was the case. But he has played well recently. I will cut him some slack....for now.

JFC, how many times does it have to be pointed out that the O-Line, as bad as it was, wasn't solely responsible for the number of sacks he took last year.

His sack numbers for 15 1/2 game for New England were higher than the sack numbers that Brady took the season before, and the season after, combined.

Cassel was every bit as responsible for the 45 sacks he suffered last year as the O-Line.


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