I don't think that's the case at all.

It was pointed out in the second post after he made that post, and there are only about 7 or posts after, two of hwich are Claythan himself, one of which is another post pointing out his error by the original poster.

It would actually be pretty stupid to put Claythan on ignore because of his gifs.

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I think it's a legitimate question.

While I do believe that you have to keep defenses honest by chucking it downfield occassionally, I also believe that some of the greats took their shots sparingly, specifically Joe Montana.

To me, the measure of greatness is more about what you do in the last 5 minutes of big games, in the playoffs, and the SB.

Now, it is a team game, and guys like Marino and Dan Fouts were limited by the teams around them on the defensive side, so it's really hard to get a true measure of their greatness.

On the other hand, I believe a guy like Kenny Stabler is highly underrated.

Another QB I think is highly underrated is Terry Bradshaw, who changed and evolved as the team around him changed and evolved more than any other QB that I can remember watching.

No, the guy is sitting there saying Montana and Brady couldn't throw down the field or didn't do it with efficiency.

At least that's what he's implying.

Montana made some gorgeous ****ing throws down the field during his career.

Case in point. The battle of turnovers. The team that turns over the ball the least wins the most, generally speaking.

Phillip Rivers is 2-5 because he and his team turn the ball over despite all the amazing down-field throws that he makes.

Yes but Montana didn't make a living chucking the ball down the field. The West Coast Offense is not an "air-em-out" offense.

You miss his point.

Montana was, and Brady has been through most of his career, very effective and efficient throwing the ball downfield, regardless of the limited number of attempts to go downfield.

Damn your old...


but to your previous post, I think it is a valid arguement. I do like how Weis and Haley are slowly growing this offense as a unit and not worried about stats (ala DV)... Each week we see a little more and a little more stuff down the field, but I dont ever recall a Weis team being a martz type of team....


I think by years end, we will have a better attack downfield, but I wouldnt bet the farm on it. Just dont think the OC and HC give two shits about throwing the ball 30+ yards in the air...

I was watching a replay of the bills/ravens game last night... There was a good drive where they were mixing up the pass and run, moving the ball, Then when they got to about the 25-30, 3 straight incompletes to the endzone... Why? What was wrong with the shorter underneath routes that were working the whole drive long? People are enamored with the big play and focus way too much on one persons stats...

Now it was a 46 yard FG instead of moving the ball and eating clock...

Agree completely...

It was cool watching Brady with 10 seconds in the pocket launching a bomb and letting moss go abuse someone for it....

Well I agree that when those guys go downfield they have had better success.

I think Matt could increase his downfield % with a Jerry Rice.

Then again, Cassel throws a long pass down field, Bowe catches it and runs another 15-20 yards into the endzone and it results in a 53 yard TD pass and all we can do here is bitch about the throw.

I think Cassel could improve his downfield % with better accuracy.

Rice doesn't gain the kind of yac he did throughout his career with a QB that constantly forces him to adjust.

Fortunately, I'm seeing Cassel improving in that area.

I really think that was a much better throw than he is given credit for, because a pass that leads Bowe leads him right into the safety.