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DaKCMan AP 12-12-2010 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefGator (Post 7248865)
No head coach is going to leave Florida for Texas. It's a lateral move. Two of the great football programs in the country.

As for Muschamp, he has more roots in Florida and the SEC than outside it.

Yeah, plus I wouldn't be surprised if there's a clause in the contract that makes the buyout for Texas astronomical.

DaKCMan AP 12-12-2010 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefGator (Post 7248869)
So.. I want the Kirby Smart rumors to be true, but isn't he already DC in 'Bama and under contract? How do you get him in a lateral move, even if he wants to be in Florida with Muschamp?

I don't see it happening, but you make him Asst HC + DC and show him the $$.

DaKCMan AP 12-12-2010 07:56 AM

Hearing that Muschamp is looking to hire John Papuchis (Nebraska) and/or Bo Davis (Alabama) as part of the defensive staff.

eazyb81 12-12-2010 08:11 AM

I think this is just smoke before Bob Stoops gets hired.

Honestly, kind of a meh hire. No certainty that a good coordinator will become a good head coach.

Jerm 12-12-2010 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefGator (Post 7248869)
So.. I want the Kirby Smart rumors to be true, but isn't he already DC in 'Bama and under contract? How do you get him in a lateral move, even if he wants to be in Florida with Muschamp?

He got a huge bump in pay this past offseason.

He wouldn't leave for UGA, his alma mater, who were going to make him the highest paid assistant in the country and give him HC in waiting status....he ain't leaving for Florida.

DaKCMan AP 12-12-2010 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 7248948)
He got a huge bump in pay this past offseason.

He wouldn't leave for UGA, his alma mater, who were going to make him the highest paid assistant in the country and give him HC in waiting status....he ain't leaving for Florida.

Again, I don't think he'll leave, but Muschamp and Smart are very good friends. They both played at UGA and coached together at Voldosta State and LSU.

58-4ever 12-12-2010 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefGator (Post 7248865)
No head coach is going to leave Florida for Texas. It's a lateral move. Two of the great football programs in the country.

As for Muschamp, he has more roots in Florida and the SEC than outside it.

That's why I was surprised to hear Stoops' name. Bob made it clear last time the Florida job was open that he wanted to stay in Norman

Jerm 12-12-2010 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 7248954)
Again, I don't think he'll leave, but Muschamp and Smart are very good friends. They both played at UGA and coached together at Voldosta State and LSU.

Good point, who knows...just don't think he'll go.

I personally didn't really want him at UGA, I think it's more Saban's defense than him...think he just goes along with NS and rides shotgun.

Not saying he's a bad DC or whatever but I was weary of UGA making him the highest paid assistant.

ChiefGator 12-12-2010 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 58-4ever (Post 7248957)
That's why I was surprised to hear Stoops' name. Bob made it clear last time the Florida job was open that he wanted to stay in Norman

They ALWAYS bring up Stoops for the Florida connection. I always feel the chance of it happening is very low. The local paper even brought up Shanahan again, even though he has a job (but perhaps little job security) in Washington.

DaKCMan AP 12-12-2010 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 58-4ever (Post 7248957)
That's why I was surprised to hear Stoops' name. Bob made it clear last time the Florida job was open that he wanted to stay in Norman

Thing is, I've read that when Urban stepped down for a day or two last year Stoops agreed to take the Florida job then. Obviously I can't confirm that or state it as fact, but it's what I've heard/read. On the same note, Stoops turned us down after Spurrier left and after Zook got fired so take it as a grain of salt.

DaKCMan AP 12-12-2010 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 7248960)
Good point, who knows...just don't think he'll go.

I personally didn't really want him at UGA, I think it's more Saban's defense than him...think he just goes along with NS and rides shotgun.

Not saying he's a bad DC or whatever but I was weary of UGA making him the highest paid assistant.

That might be another reason he'd leave. Everyone perceives Bama's defense as Saban's, not Smart's. He might want to leave Saban's shadow and make more of a name for himself. Over the past 2-3 years more Florida assistants have left for HC jobs elsewhere or NFL jobs than probably any other University, so it's technically more of a stepping stone position than at Bama.

Reaper16 12-12-2010 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 7248976)
Over the past 2-3 years more Florida assistants have left for HC jobs elsewhere or NFL jobs than probably any other University, so it's technically more of a stepping stone position than at Bama.

LMAO. There's the DaKCMan we know and love; making the hyperbolic seem rationally stated.

DaKCMan AP 12-12-2010 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 7249319)
LMAO. There's the DaKCMan we know and love; making the hyperbolic seem rationally stated.

Dan Mullen - HC at MSU
Charlie Strong - HC at Louisville
Doc Holliday - WVU before HC @ Marshall
Greg Mattison - DC for Ravens
Dan McCarney - HC for North Texas

Show me another school that has had as many guys become HC/DC for NFL in the same time period.

Reaper16 12-12-2010 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 7249425)
Dan Mullen - HC at MSU
Charlie Strong - HC at Louisville
Doc Holliday - WVU before HC @ Marshall
Greg Mattison - DC for Ravens
Dan McCarney - HC for North Texas

Show me another school that has had as many guys become HC/DC for NFL in the same time period.

I'm not sure that I could. It doesn't matter; those placements don't mean that Florida is "technically a better stepping stone" than any other similarly-competent program. Those placements are explained in full by the following: "teams were good, yo."

If Muschamp can assemble a coterie of coaches and players that equal the success of Urban Meyer's years, then there will be a similarly-large number of placements. And it will have very little, if anything, to do with it being at Florida vs somewhere else.

Titty Meat 12-12-2010 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 7248906)
Hearing that Muschamp is looking to hire John Papuchis (Nebraska) and/or Bo Davis (Alabama) as part of the defensive staff.

There was a rumor that Texas was looking at Papuchis before Muschamp left. Rumor is Papuchis is good friends with Muschamp and is a hell of a recruiter.


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