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FAX 02-14-2011 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ClayWhit (Post 7428546)
According to Cardinals kicker Jay Feely, Panthers owner Jerry Richardson was dismissive and condescending when speaking to Drew Brees and Peyton Manning in a CBA negotiating session last Saturday.

Speaking on Michael Kay's radio show in New York, Feelys says Richardson said "do I need to help you read a revenue chart son?" when talking to Manning, before adding "do I need to help break that down for you because I don’t know if you know how to read that?" If the owners are treating the even league's most visible and respected players this poorly, there's no telling how bad things might get this offseason.
ROFL

The irony here is that Manning probably does need assistance in understanding and comprehending an income statement, a balance sheet, or a "revenue chart".

Of course, on the other hand, NFL owners pay out a lot of money to professionals whose expertise is book cooking and who can make enormous profits magically disappear. Just ask the IRS. Or the ex-wives.

FAX

Brock 02-14-2011 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 7429022)
The Networks MUST pay the NFL and the NFL MUST pay the Owners.

The owners can now d!ck around however they like on how any player gets paid.

Unless I'm wrong and KC players no longer get paid through the KC Chiefs organization...?
The math still has to add up to 60 percent to the players.

Bowser 02-14-2011 12:28 PM
That actually brings up a point - if there is a lockout, do the networks get out of handing over the billions the TV contracts promise to the NFL (I'll answer my own question and say no, or else the owners wouldn't be trying a stunt like this).

The Franchise 02-14-2011 12:30 PM
If there is a lock out.....it saves me money. From Fantasy Football fees to NFL Sunday Ticket.

Brock 02-14-2011 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 7429032)
That actually brings up a point - if there is a lockout, do the networks get out of handing over the billions the TV contracts promise to the NFL (I'll answer my own question and say no, or else the owners wouldn't be trying a stunt like this).
The networks have agreed to pay the NFL regardless of the labor situation.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...ssible-lockout

DaFace 02-14-2011 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 7429032)
That actually brings up a point - if there is a lockout, do the networks get out of handing over the billions the TV contracts promise to the NFL (I'll answer my own question and say no, or else the owners wouldn't be trying a stunt like this).
My understanding is that the owners will still get paid by the TV networks this year no matter what. However, they're not necessarily getting something for nothing, as the owners eventually have to provide the services they said they would. In other words, the networks are just paying early and will eventually have a "free" season. Or something like that.

Bowser 02-14-2011 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 7429038)
The networks have agreed to pay the NFL regardless of the labor situation.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...ssible-lockout
Yeah, figured as much. No way the owners would attempt this if they didn't have that to fall back on.

The players don't appear to be negotiating from a position of strength, even if their wants aren't excessive.

Bowser 02-14-2011 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 7429041)
My understanding is that the owners will still get paid by the TV networks this year no matter what. However, they're not necessarily getting something for nothing, as the owners eventually have to provide the services they said they would. In other words, the networks are just paying early and will eventually have a "free" season. Or something like that.
For that kind of price tag, you'd think that would be the way it should shake out. Let's see if the owners take the kind of hard line stance with the networks that they are with the players if it unfolds that way (unless it's already worded as such in the contract, then I'm just wasting air. Didn't see that clause in Brock's link).

Rausch 02-14-2011 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 7429031)
The math still has to add up to 60 percent to the players.
Under what contract?

The one that expired?...

Brock 02-14-2011 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 7429058)
Under what contract?

The one that expired?...
It hasn't expired yet, but this is a different subject than what you started with.

DaFace 02-14-2011 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 7429056)
For that kind of price tag, you'd think that would be the way it should shake out. Let's see if the owners take the kind of hard line stance with the networks that they are with the players if it unfolds that way (unless it's already worded as such in the contract, then I'm just wasting air. Didn't see that clause in Brock's link).
Yeah, I don't really know the specifics, but I think we'd hear about the networks getting nervous if they were really facing the possibility of having to pay for a season that doesn't happen without eventually getting something back.

FAX 02-14-2011 12:42 PM
I'd like to see some kind of rookie pay "slotting". I'd like to see a reduction in ticket prices. I'd like to see an improved veteran retirement and medical assistance program. I'd like to see a better on-field official training program. I'd like to see the Super Bowl played out-of-doors. I'd like to see an enhanced rule incentive allowing the free-kick to be used more often. And, I'd like to see Salma Hayek's tittahs close-up.

Not necessarily in that order.

FAX

Rausch 02-14-2011 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 7429060)
It hasn't expired yet, but this is a different subject than what you started with.
It's all litigation now.

It becomes so unbelievably ugly that neither side really wants to have to be the one to not sign.

At the end of the day the NFL/Owners have all the leverage.

Right or wrong.

That's how it ends.

Rausch 02-14-2011 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 7429068)
I'd like to see some kind of rookie pay "slotting".
If this alone was done I'd be happy...

vailpass 02-14-2011 12:45 PM
Wake me up when you reach an agreement. Until then I don't care about your machinations and posturing.
Although Jerry Richardson's comments are funny as hell.


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