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LiveSteam 11-07-2011 09:42 AM

Joe may try to play the roll of Ronald Reagan in Iran contra hearings. HE KNEW. No way I ever believe he didnt

Frazod 11-07-2011 09:42 AM

Nothing worse than a child molester who abuses a position of trust to lure/control victims.

This ****er should be publicly burned at the stake. To those who helped cover it up, a bullet to the head will suffice.

Dave Lane 11-07-2011 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Otter (Post 8088474)
Dave,

You need to confront the priest the ass banged you in the shower. Take a lead pipe to his head, write him a nasty letter or take him out to dinner and share a bottle of wine and see where the evening leads. Just please shut the **** up already about your religious hangups on every post you can somehow manage to squeeze one in. We get the picture.

Maybe you and GoChiefs could double date with the religious figurehead that rocked his world so it's not so awkward until the alcohol kicks in.
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Ol' JoePa better break out the Alzheimer card quick.

Are you disputing the facts or are you just extra cranky today? This is SOP for the catholic church. NONE of the priest EVER get charged with a crime. Yet other people do. If there is no hypocrisy or outrage on your part I guess its understandable.

Otter 11-07-2011 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 8088680)
Are you disputing the facts or are you just extra cranky today? This is SOP for the catholic church. NONE of the priest EVER get charged with a crime. Yet other people do. If there is no hypocrisy or outrage on your part I guess its understandable.

And this has what to do with Penn State? I'll answer for you butt hurt: NOTHING!!!

PS - wrong forum

lcarus 11-07-2011 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 8088680)
Are you disputing the facts or are you just extra cranky today? This is SOP for the catholic church. NONE of the priest EVER get charged with a crime. Yet other people do. If there is no hypocrisy or outrage on your part I guess its understandable.

This has nothing to do with Penn State but I agree with you. The amount of priests that have molested young boys is staggering and hard to wrap your brain around. Still...it's the few making the majority look bad.

Garcia Bronco 11-07-2011 10:01 AM

Paterno needs to be fired and about 50 wins taken off his resume, because he doesn't coach anymore and is completely ****ing stupid for not going to the police along with this graduate assistent.

LiveSteam 11-07-2011 10:01 AM

Im not Catholic. But just the same
SHUT THE **** UP DAVE WITH YOUR ATHEIST BULL SHIT. IT GETS OLD.
Your gonna shoot your mouth off to the wrong peep someday & your gonna find out if god is real or not
& further more DAVE, how do you know that Sandusky isnt an Atheist like you?
I cant see Sandusky believing in the teachings of the Bible after this

blaise 11-07-2011 10:18 AM

Joe Pa will be gone. I don't even think it's a question.

And the guy who initially looked into this in 2005, Ray Gricar, mysteriously disappeared in 2005 and was only declared legally dead this past summer.

LiveSteam 11-07-2011 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by blaise (Post 8088748)
Joe Pa will be gone. I don't even think it's a question.

And the guy who initially looked into this in 2005, Ray Gricar, mysteriously disappeared in 2005 and was only declared legally dead this past summer.

Where did you read this? Ray Gricar thing. Can you post a link.

blaise 11-07-2011 10:27 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Gricar

There's not much about it on there. I'm sure there's more out there though. It's no smoking gun, just interesting considering the news today.

Edit: And just in that time, someone removed the line about him being tied to Penn State investigation.
It was on there and now gone.

LiveSteam 11-07-2011 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by blaise (Post 8088785)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Gricar

There's not much about it on there. I'm sure there's more out there though. It's no smoking gun, just interesting considering the news today.

Edit: And just in that time, someone removed the line about him being tied to Penn State investigation.
It was on there and now gone.

I agree. very strange. the plot maybe thickens

COchief 11-07-2011 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by blaise (Post 8088785)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Gricar

There's not much about it on there. I'm sure there's more out there though. It's no smoking gun, just interesting considering the news today.

Edit: And just in that time, someone removed the line about him being tied to Penn State investigation.
It was on there and now gone.

The details of his disappearance are interesting and creepy enough, but tied into this crazy story it becomes enthralling, I wonder what the hell was on that hard drive? The small blurb about his brother dying right in the area too is strange.

BigRock 11-07-2011 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 8088665)
So Paterno knew about this in some way? I was reading that he didn't know..but I don't really don't know what to believe at this point.

The official JoePa version is that the only thing he ever knew about any of this was when a graduate assistant (Mike McQueary, former Penn State QB, current WR coach) came to him in 2002 and told him he saw "something inappropriate" between Sandusky and a young boy in the showers.

The "something inappropriate", according to McQueary, was Sandusky having sex with the boy. But JoePa denies that McQueary told him he saw Sandusky having sex with a child.

Sandusky had been investigated by PSU campus police in 1998 for similar actions, but JoePa claims to have no knowledge of that investigation. A backup safety can't get a handjob in Happy Valley without JoePa hearing about it, but his defensive coordinator and 30-year assistant gets investigated for kiddy fiddling by the university's own police and nobody mentions it to the head coach. And in a total coincidence, Sandusky happened to step down the season after the investigation. That all sounds plausible.

But JoePa has to deny knowing about the prior investigation, because if he had some inkling of what Sandusky was up to, then the handling of the 2002 allegation looks practically criminal. And he has to deny that McQueary said he saw Sandusky having sex with a child, because if JoePa heard that, then the handling of the allegation again looks awful. To say nothing of the fact that Sandusky continued bringing kids around the program for years afterwards.

So basically, JoePa says he only knew of one claim, which he wasn't told the full, horrible extent of. And he told his higher-ups at the university and washed his hands of it.

But even that version, which spins him in the best possible light, still makes him look bad. The person who made the claim wasn't some guy, it was one of his former players and an assistant coach. And even a vague claim of inappropriateness between a grown man and a young boy on your campus, in your locker room, in your shower, should be enough to make someone's blood go cold.

But apparently it wasn't important enough to follow-up on.

L.A. Chieffan 11-07-2011 10:56 AM

well we already knew that the girls at penn st. are whores

vailpass 11-07-2011 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 8088675)
Joe may try to play the roll of Ronald Reagan in Iran contra hearings. HE KNEW. No way I ever believe he didnt

I hope not.


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