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Caseyguyrr 11-09-2011 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 8096512)
Pioli is not the problem.

really?

Iconic 11-10-2011 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Caseyguyrr (Post 8096538)
really?

Yes really... I've been a low key Dallas fan my entire life. I know what real shitty management feels like.

Hammock Parties 11-10-2011 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 8096528)
Bill Maas had an interesting take and he said it's from someone in the coaching staff, that with Berry out, McGraw out, Lewis dinged they are having to drop more players into coverage to mask a really bad pair of safeties and nickel back. Said plays where we did blitz the blitzers didn't get there and there were some huge plays off of those.

Right now there's two problems. Hali is our only pass rusher and and the secondary other than Flowers and Carr completely blows.

Guess who's fault that is?

Nightfyre 11-10-2011 12:14 AM

In further news, Gochiefs is a moron. This roster requires 14-17 more players and most importantly a new QB. You CANNOT overhaul a roster in 2.10 seasons.

Hammock Parties 11-10-2011 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 8096562)
In further news, Gochiefs is a moron. This roster requires 14-17 more players and most importantly a new QB. You CANNOT overhaul a roster in 2.10 seasons.

Pioli has had three offseasons. Three drafts. And we are still getting our asses kicked. AT HOME.

Nightfyre 11-10-2011 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8096565)
Pioli has had three offseasons. Three drafts. And we are still getting our asses kicked. AT HOME.

You just don't get it, do you? He practically had to flush 45 players off this roster. You can't do that in a 2 drafts plus (whatever the hell you want to call 2009) and three super weak free agency periods. He can't miracle players into existence.

Further, he hasn't had time to develop his new crop. His 2009 class should just be coming into their own.

Lastly, YOU ARE A HACK.

Hammock Parties 11-10-2011 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 8096569)
You just don't get it, do you? He practically had to flush 45 players off this roster. You can't do that in a 2 drafts plus (whatever the hell you want to call 2009) and three super weak free agency periods.

http://i42.tinypic.com/x21o4l.jpg

58kcfan89 11-10-2011 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8096565)
Pioli has had three offseasons. Three drafts. And we are still getting our asses kicked. AT HOME.

By the formerly 0-7 Dolphins.

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 8096562)
In further news, Gochiefs is a moron. This roster requires 14-17 more players and most importantly a new QB. You CANNOT overhaul a roster in 2.10 seasons.

And Pioli acquired said QB and passed on upgrading the depth through free agency. I don't want his head on a pike like GC seems to, but I definitely see some problems here... Pioli's got time to get my trust back, but I don't know why he thought that Piscitelli would be a good addition in any sense of the word.

Nightfyre 11-10-2011 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8096576)

Yea, why didn't we trade the Herschel Walker pick?

Iconic 11-10-2011 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8096576)

Matt Cassel and Jamaal Charles couldn't even lick Aikman and Emitt's jock strap. Not a very fair comparison.

Edit: Same goes for Bowe and Irwin.

Hammock Parties 11-10-2011 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 8096583)
Matt Cassel and Jamaal Charles couldn't even lick Aikman and Emitt's jock strap. Not a very fair comparison.

Edit: Same goes for Bowe and Irwin.

The intent is to show you can go from 1-15 to upper-echelon team in a short span.

Pioli and Haley have had plenty of time.

They suck.

Nightfyre 11-10-2011 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8096613)
The intent is to show you can go from 1-15 to upper-echelon team in a short span.

Pioli and Haley have had plenty of time.

They suck.

No you suck. You can't ignore the Herschel Walker deal in the 1989 Dallas Cowboys turnaround. You would give up on rebuilding the roster and the culture of KC when it is 70% complete?

Well guys, the empire state building is taking too long to build, let's knock it down and start over. ****ing ridiculous.

Hammock Parties 11-10-2011 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 8096620)
No you suck. You can't ignore the Herschel Walker deal in the 1989 Dallas Cowboys turnaround.

There are plenty of other examples.

Getting their ass handed to them three times in eight games after three offseasons is positively dreadful. They have had enough time that this shit should not be happening. We look as bad as we did the year they got here.

Iconic 11-10-2011 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 8096613)
The intent is to show you can go from 1-15 to upper-echelon team in a short span.

Pioli and Haley have had plenty of time.

They suck.

Yes, you can go from 1-15 to the Superbowl. All you need is three future HOFamers and a incompetent franchise to trade with. A lot of factors play into how quickly a franchise becomes king shit. How strong have the past 4 FA's been? How about the draft classes? How bad was the team when Pioli received it and how many players from the 09 season are still with us? How about the Lockout? Does it change how a young team like us may play? Lingering injuries in key positions? Too many variables here to compare our franchise to the 90s Cowboys.

It should be noted we made the playoffs last season. Regardless of how... It's a form of success.

Smed1065 11-10-2011 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 8096528)
Bill Maas had an interesting take and he said it's from someone in the coaching staff, that with Berry out, McGraw out, Lewis dinged they are having to drop more players into coverage to mask a really bad pair of safeties and nickel back. Said plays where we did blitz the blitzers didn't get there and there were some huge plays off of those.

Right now there's two problems. Hali is our only pass rusher and and the secondary other than Flowers and Carr completely blows.

So QB is good to go? Oh a lineman.


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