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Titty Meat 01-02-2012 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8254683)
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Hey, sounds like the locker room loves Cassel.

How do you know it's not Orton?

Carlota69 01-02-2012 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8254859)
How do you know it's not Orton?

Because The Defense hasnt spent the entire game on the field the last 3 games?

Carlota69 01-02-2012 10:10 AM

Some dude on NFLN just said Muir is going to retire. Good.

DaKCMan AP 01-02-2012 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 8254911)
Some dude on NFLN just said Muir is going to retire. Good.

Awesome.

Reerun_KC 01-02-2012 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 8254903)
Because The Defense hasnt spent the entire game on the field the last 3 games?

Right, he is awesome between the 20's...

If we can fix his career long issue, you might have a Stopgap Mediocrity QB...

Carlota69 01-02-2012 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 8254917)
Right, he is awesome between the 20's...

If we can fix his career long issue, you might have a Stopgap Mediocrity QB...

Agreed. I wonder if the players like Orton more than Cassel. I would imagine so, but maybe thats just me liking Orton more.

ToxSocks 01-02-2012 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 8254685)
We are so ****ed. RAC is going to be a terrible head coach. A perfect example is this last game. Meaningless worthless game yet he won't start Stanzi, Powe or Hudson to give them some seasoning. When asked about it in the press conference he said I'm going with the players that got us here.

Thats all I need to hear. We need someone with some balls and some vision for blending in rooks and getting them some playing time.

Lol. You mean like playing guys like Bailey, Baldwin and Houston? Or how about all of our 2nd and 3rd year players like Amon Gordon?

....dude.....dumbest post you've ever made.

Dexter Manley 01-02-2012 10:18 AM

"Hiring Pioli is his biggest sin, and that is something 95% of this place was ecstatic about. "


Bill Belichick is still ecstatic about it...

ToxSocks 01-02-2012 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 8254817)
So what has Hunt done besides make Pioli the highest paid GM in the league and have one of the highest paid coaching staffs in the league?

Sign DJ, Hali, Flowers, JC, Succup (lol), etc......

You are going to say Hunt is cheap because he didn't sign x-players.

Who are those players? You think a RT or center was going to cost a fortune? $ wasn't the issue there, Pioli is.

You going to say they didn't want to pay a back up QB? Then they gave $2.6MM to Orton for 5 games?

You are entitled to your opinion but what has Clark ****ed up recently that doesn't point directly back to Pioli?

Hiring Pioli is his biggest sin, and that is something 95% of this place was ecstatic about.

Cheap owners let key players walk rather than paying them, I haven't seen that happen one time since Clark took over. I hope it doesn't happen with Bowe.

This.

All this "Clark is cheap" crap is nonsense.

Reerun_KC 01-02-2012 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 8254923)
Agreed. I wonder if the players like Orton more than Cassel. I would imagine so, but maybe thats just me liking Orton more.

it would be like liking aids or cancer more...

Neither speak will for your long term future...

Reerun_KC 01-02-2012 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 8254817)
So what has Hunt done besides make Pioli the highest paid GM in the league and have one of the highest paid coaching staffs in the league?

Sign DJ, Hali, Flowers, JC, Succup (lol), etc......

You are going to say Hunt is cheap because he didn't sign x-players.

Who are those players? You think a RT or center was going to cost a fortune? $ wasn't the issue there, Pioli is.

You going to say they didn't want to pay a back up QB? Then they gave $2.6MM to Orton for 5 games?

You are entitled to your opinion but what has Clark ****ed up recently that doesn't point directly back to Pioli?

Hiring Pioli is his biggest sin, and that is something 95% of this place was ecstatic about.

Cheap owners let key players walk rather than paying them, I haven't seen that happen one time since Clark took over. I hope it doesn't happen with Bowe.

Giving Orton 2.6 for 5 was a WTF move for damn sure... Allowing the Chiefs not to address the QB position in the offseason of last year was a WTF move... Allowing Pioli and Haley to keep Palko was a WTF move. Then allowing Pioli and Haley to menstrate with each other...

But hey, $30 for parking and would you like some nachos?

Hunt cares about one thing. Keeping the stands full. Its been beaten to death here...

ToxSocks 01-02-2012 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 8254971)
Giving Orton 2.6 for 5 was a WTF move for damn sure... Allowing the Chiefs not to address the QB position in the offseason of last year was a WTF move... Allowing Pioli and Haley to keep Palko was a WTF move. Then allowing Pioli and Haley to menstrate with each other...

But hey, $30 for parking and would you like some nachos?

Hunt cares about one thing. Keeping the stands full. Its been beaten to death here...

Lol.

Hunt allowed a GM to do a GM's job, like most of the owners in Pro Sports. There is only one Jerry Jones in the NFL. Sounds like that's what you think teams need to make SB runs. How well is that working out for Dallas? Or Washington?

You're bitching just to bitch.

petegz28 01-02-2012 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 8254777)
Does everyone forget that Romeo was the D coordinator with some of the worst blow-out losses in the history of the franchise and now some want him to have even more control?

It doesn't help your defense when your offense can't get a ****ing 1st down, let alone score more than 10 points.

Marcellus 01-02-2012 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 8254971)
Giving Orton 2.6 for 5 was a WTF move for damn sure... Allowing the Chiefs not to address the QB position in the offseason of last year was a WTF move... Allowing Pioli and Haley to keep Palko was a WTF move. Then allowing Pioli and Haley to menstrate with each other...

But hey, $30 for parking and would you like some nachos?

Hunt cares about one thing. Keeping the stands full. Its been beaten to death here...

Not one thing you have mentioned directly points at the owner. It all points at Pioli but feel free to blame Hunt. Didn't adress the QB position? Hunt gave Cassel $60MM because Pioli told Clark he was the guy.
Failure to solidify the #2 QB position was not a money issue. If it was who did they not pay they should have? Who did we not get because we didn't want to pay them the $? It was a shit ass personnel move that left Palko sittng at #2. Thats on Pioli and Haley.



Its easy to point at ownership and say well there is the issue when the team hasn't won in so long.

But then when you try to break down what Clark has ****ed up there is not a damn thing there except hire Pioli which was highly endorsed as being the correct hire.

You hire they big $ GM I think you have to trust his decision making at least to begin, if you are just going to step in and make the decisions for him why hire him and pay him?

I say again, Hunt hired Pioli so that is on him but Pioli was not cheap so the whole Clark is cheap crying ass BS is exactly that. BS. Hiring someone like Pioli is exactly opposite of what Lamar would have done IMO. Lamar would have went with one of his old school cronies or kept Peterson around until we were all dead.

Complain you want to see some different behavior from ownership, Clark steps out of the box and hires Pioli and you still bitch.

If you want to blame someone blame Pioli, I do.

JD10367 01-02-2012 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8254665)
If the players want him THIS bad, there is NO WAY you hire him. None.

This story does not end well.

I remember when Bill Parcells left New England, and they hired "Pom Pom" Pete Carroll. The players talked about how great it would be to have a "players' coach". At the press conference, one of the Patriots defensive players had his arm around Carroll.

And I also remember last year's epic collapse by the Boston Red Sox, with players eating chicken and drinking beer in the dugout while the team had the biggest September collapse in MLB history under another "players' coach", Terry Francona. Just before the September slide, after a victory no less, Francona tried to grow some balls and had a meeting with the players where he said he didn't like things that were going on; they responded with the biggest choke job in baseball.

Now, this all does validate your point somewhat but, the thing is, we don't know why the Chiefs players want/like Romeo. Is it because he's a great coach? Is it because he's coming up with unique and victorious plays? Those are great reasons to like him, and keep him. But if it's because he "isn't as mean as Haley", then, yeah, this could be a bad thing.


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