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Marcellus 04-29-2012 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8580560)
Pioli is one horrible decision from being a very good GM.

Unfortunately, he failed on the most important position.

I am not a big Pioli fan though I am not completely sold on his failure just yet, but I am heavily leaning that way.To me this years draft of Poe will be a huge step one way or another depending on how things shake out.

If Poe answers the NT issue we have a very very good defense.

Problem is that gives Cassel a crutch, especially if we have a great running game again like in 2010.

We could see years of Martyball like football in a league that throws it around like crazy.

:banghead:

DeezNutz 04-29-2012 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 8580546)
By that logic, we never will win a playoff game.

Have faith. /'93

BigMeatballDave 04-29-2012 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8580534)
I was right that he was going to be fired.

I was right that he sucked cock.

Until he gets another HC gig and succeeds, I'm ****ing right.

This is hilarious considering how much you used to slobber over Haley.

If not for injuries, the Chiefs win 10 and Haley is not fired.

Hoover 04-29-2012 10:35 AM

I don't understand those who don't like this draft because of the lack of instant starters. Who the hell are we going to bench? I think there are two places for rookies to start, NT and Guard.

DE? Nope, Dorsey and T-Jax are starters and former top 5 draft picks. Might not have lived up to their billing but there was nobody in this draft that would have started over them.

LB? I think Hali, Houston, and DJ have their spots cemented in the starting line up. There is a spot open at ILB but Belcher an Siler are not bad options. The only guy who would have started over them went in the top ten. Maybe Hightower would have been an upgrade but we would still have a gapping hole at NT

I could go on and on, but there were few people that we could have drafted that were going to make an instant impact on this team. Besides QB and NT, there were not many players who were going to get a chance to start for the Chiefs. Its not a bad problem to have.

OnTheWarpath15 04-29-2012 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 8580570)
I am not a big Pioli fan though I am not completely sold on his failure just yet, but I am heavily leaning that way.To me this years draft of Poe will be a huge step one way or another depending on how things shake out.

If Poe answers the NT issue we have a very very good defense.

Problem is that gives Cassel a crutch, especially if we have a great running game again like in 2010.

We could see years of Martyball like football in a league that throws it around like crazy.

:banghead:

I was going to start a thread about this book, but I'll just link it here.

One of the first things he does is rip the Chiefs for thinking they can win games running the football and playing defense.

Mentions that we were the only team in the league to run the ball more than pass, even when we were losing.

http://www.amazon.com/Game-Plan-Appr...5717301&sr=1-5

Skyy God 04-29-2012 10:37 AM

Pioli deserves a kick in the balls. So you identify G as a key position of need? Fine, trade back, get am extra 3rd, and take Steve Hutchinson 2.0.

the Talking Can 04-29-2012 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8580560)
Pioli is one horrible decision from being a very good GM.

Unfortunately, he failed on the most important position.

he failed hiring a coach and picking a QB

that's two...the two most important decisions

Marcellus 04-29-2012 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8580580)
I was going to start a thread about this book, but I'll just link it here.

One of the first things he does is rip the Chiefs for thinking they can win games running the football and playing defense.

Mentions that we were the only team in the league to run the ball more than pass, even when we were losing.

http://www.amazon.com/Game-Plan-Appr...5717301&sr=1-5

I will have to give that a read. Interesting.

We run the ball more than throw it, which means we don't trust the QB, yet don't replace the QB?

At some point they have to see the insanity in that right?

BigMeatballDave 04-29-2012 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8580583)
he failed hiring a coach and picking a QB

that's two...the two most important decisions

Haley or Crennel?

As I already mentioned, erase those injuries and they win 10 and he's not fired.

the Talking Can 04-29-2012 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8580598)
Haley or Crennel?

As I already mentioned, erase those injuries and they win 10 and he's not fired.

and if my uncle had boobs....

pioli had to fire the coach he hired, mid-season....that's a gigantic failure

BigMeatballDave 04-29-2012 10:43 AM

Also, if you have a great QB, does it really matter who is HC?

See: Indianapoils Colts

BigRedChief 04-29-2012 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8580556)
Wasn't saying that at all.

Simply making a point that we had the services of those two players in 2010, and we were ass raped in our own building.

Curious as to what he thinks changed in one offseason that makes him think we would have won a playoff game.



I know and like BRC in "real life", but this quote sums up the fanbase.

We're not that far away due to the quality of the division.

Great, we win a weak division.

Then what?

Continue to settle for mediocrity, according to most.

I realize we don't see each other in person too often since I'm in Florida but as my fellow Chief fans that I watch games with will attest, I trash Cassell all game. He's just not the answer for a SB win.

I think we are a good QB away from having a "real" chance at a SB. The weak division gives us a chance until we get a good QB. I'm not satisified, just a realistic apprasil. I firmly believe we would have beat Pitt in a home playoff game last year, if we had won one more game.

Chiefshrink 04-29-2012 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 8580576)
I don't understand those who don't like this draft because of the lack of instant starters. Who the hell are we going to bench? I think there are two places for rookies to start, NT and Guard.

DE? Nope, Dorsey and T-Jax are starters and former top 5 draft picks. Might not have lived up to their billing but there was nobody in this draft that would have started over them.

LB? I think Hali, Houston, and DJ have their spots cemented in the starting line up. There is a spot open at ILB but Belcher an Siler are not bad options. The only guy who would have started over them went in the top ten. Maybe Hightower would have been an upgrade but we would still have a gapping hole at NT

I could go on and on, but there were few people that we could have drafted that were going to make an instant impact on this team. Besides QB and NT, there were not many players who were going to get a chance to start for the Chiefs. Its not a bad problem to have.

You make waaaaaaaay too much sense INDEED !:thumb:

Hammock Parties 04-29-2012 11:00 AM

Here are some props for Pioli.

http://www.tailwindcapitalgroup.com/...prop_plane.jpg

Now leave, bitch.

BossChief 04-29-2012 11:01 AM

I'd give this whole draft and next years first and second to have moved up for RG3 or given up what it takes to move up to 6 to draft Tannehill.

Also, I think it's hilarious that you guys clown Pioli for not getting a quarterback, but the same people that are doing that wanted nothing to do with Tannehill or Orton (except TTC who seemed ok with making a move for Tannehill iirc)

If we are to be fair, which quarterbacks would have made you guys feel better THAT WOULD HAVE GIVEN US MORE THAN STANZI?


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