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Chiefnj2 07-17-2012 02:09 PM

The Chiefs can use a first rounder on a WR in 2013. After he gets acclimated for a year or two, then Cassel will have no excuses!

BigMeatballDave 07-17-2012 02:11 PM

Top 10

I'd give him $40m guaranteed

RealSNR 07-17-2012 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8748068)
The Chiefs can use a first rounder on a WR in 2013. After he gets acclimated for a year or two, then Cassel will have no excuses!

Yeah, but Tony Mo figures to get injured again this year. He needs a true #1 TE. Probably two. Tom Brady has them, so it's really unfair to expect Cassel to win playoff games without an equal supporting cast.

Hammock Parties 07-17-2012 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8748059)
if he didn't drop so many balls he'd probably be in the top five...

I know that you are trolling, but Bowe's catch percentage last season was a whopping 1.3 percent lower than Calvin Johnson's. Bowe was 8th out of 32 receivers, Calvin was 5th.

You actually gain a lot of insight into how good Bowe is if you shorten the list of receivers. In what was a "disappointing year" for Bowe according to some, with horrible QB play, out of the top 32 receivers Bowe was 6th in pass rating. There were only 3 guys in the league who were more than 1 point ahead of him.

The "list" by the way is sorted by highest percentage of snaps played.

RealSNR 07-17-2012 02:24 PM

Some incredible statistics are being reported in this thread.

I wonder if Bowe's agent slapped Scott upside the head with these when he made his big offers.

Yeah, probably

Hammock Parties 07-17-2012 02:32 PM

Bowe also forced 13 missed tackles last season. That was pretty near the top.

Now multiply that by the difference between Bowe's targets and Roddy White's.

Bowe would lead the league in missed tackles forced.

jd1020 07-17-2012 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8748058)
Delhomme? Dude's thrown for 20,000+ yards in this league, and has a 300+ 3/0 game in a losing effort in the Super Bowl.

Ya... Delhomme was a real ****ing stud when Bowe entered the league.

I forgot Bowe was drafted in 2003.

OnTheWarpath15 07-17-2012 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8748145)
Ya... Delhomme was a real ****ing stud when Bowe entered the league.

I forgot Bowe was drafted in 2003.

Way to miss the point.

As usual.

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Only a Grade A fool would even attempt to compare the QB play Fitz and Smith have gotten to what Bowe has gotten.

Fitz and Smith have played with some shit QB's.

Bowe has played with nothing but shit QB's.

Thanks for confirming your ignorance.

jd1020 07-17-2012 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8748150)
Way to miss the point.

As usual.

Rofl.

Get shit on and then walk backwards.

Fitz put up one of his best years last year, without Warner.

OnTheWarpath15 07-17-2012 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8748154)
Rofl.

Get shit on and then walk backwards.

Fitz put up one of his best years last year, without Warner.

Please explain how I've been shit on, much less walked backwards in this thread.

I'll wait, genius.

Again:

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Only a Grade A fool would even attempt to compare the QB play Fitz and Smith have gotten to what Bowe has gotten.

Fitz and Smith have played with some shit QB's.

Bowe has played with nothing but shit QB's.

Thanks for confirming your ignorance.

Hammock Parties 07-17-2012 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8748154)
Rofl.

Get shit on and then walk backwards.

Fitz put up one of his best years last year, without Warner.

And yet he was still targeted 21 more times than Bowe.

And had a catch percentage that was almost 10 points LOWER.

If you take Fitz's targets and plug in Bowe's catch percentage and yards per catch, Bowe finishes with 1,345 yards to Fitz's 1,411.

OnTheWarpath15 07-17-2012 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8748166)
And yet he was still targeted 21 more times than Bowe.

And had a catch percentage that was almost 10 points LOWER.

If you take Fitz's targets and plug in Bowe's catch percentage and yards per catch, Bowe finishes with 1,345 yards to Fitz's 1,411.

You can throw all the evidence you want at this one.

He's either a troll, lacks basic intelligence, or both.

RealSNR 07-17-2012 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8748133)
Bowe also forced 13 missed tackles last season. That was pretty near the top.

Now multiply that by the difference between Bowe's targets and Roddy White's.

Bowe would lead the league in missed tackles forced.

Sometimes stats are worthless and one should just look at game tape.

Bowe rapes people on the field. Period. No other WR does what he does the way he does it.

Pay him.

ChiefsCountry 07-17-2012 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8748170)
You can throw all the evidence you want at this one.

He's either a troll, lacks basic intelligence, or both.

He is a ****ing idiot.

jd1020 07-17-2012 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8748170)
You can throw all the evidence you want at this one.

He's either a troll, lacks basic intelligence, or both.

Because taking some elses stats and plugging in Bowes is evidence.

You gonna take Bowe over Fitzgerald? Or even pay Bowe as much as Fitzgerald. Please...


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