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R8RFAN 10-24-2012 02:00 PM

Kansas City has selected just one quarterback in the first 100 picks since 1992, when Matt Blundin - Remember him? Didn't think so - was the Chiefs' second-round choice.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/chiefs-...6165--nfl.html

RealSNR 10-24-2012 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9045858)
Food for thought (yes I know surrounding talent isn't the same) against Texas Tech and K State:

Geno 57.4% 209 yard/avg 4.8 y/a and 2TD to 2 INT

Jones 63.8%, 281.5 yards/avg 6.78 y/a and 3 TD to 1 INT

I know you're a pretty good football poster, but Jesus Christ. In your attempts to keep the debate honest and interesting, you sometimes say shit that goes full BlackBob

Iconic 10-24-2012 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DarthPioliSatan (Post 9045902)
Goin' Balls Deep with Smith in 2013!@

I see what you did there.LMAO
But it's only because Barkley doesn't have any.

RealSNR 10-24-2012 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9045915)
Kansas City has selected just one quarterback in the first 100 picks since 1992, when Matt Blundin - Remember him? Didn't think so - was the Chiefs' second-round choice.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/chiefs-...6165--nfl.html

What's that guy talking about? Of course I remember him. I asked my folks to get me a Blundin jersey for my birthday that year. I didn't get one :(

Chiefnj2 10-24-2012 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9045916)
I know you're a pretty good football poster, but Jesus Christ. In your attempts to keep the debate honest and interesting, you sometimes say shit that goes full BlackBob

You've gone full deep throat on Smith for weeks. You've been claiming he's better than RGIII. He isn't. When people said wait until the tough stretch of his schedule to evaluate him, you and others said he's played tons of good teams over 3 years and has proven himself. Well, he hasn't - yet.

The point of my post was that Landry Jones, as flawed as he is, was able to play better than Smith against two good teams this year.

RealSNR 10-24-2012 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9045925)
You've gone full deep throat on Smith for weeks. You've been claiming he's better than RGIII. He isn't. When people said wait until the tough stretch of his schedule to evaluate him, you and others said he's played tons of good teams over 3 years and has proven himself. Well, he hasn't - yet.

The point of my post was that Landry Jones, as flawed as he is, was able to play better than Smith against two good teams this year.

1. I never said he was better than RGIII. I said he had a better arm than RGIII, but lacked the same athleticism.

2. The rest of your post doesn't matter. You included this cute little disclaimer when you posted those stats:

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(yes I know surrounding talent isn't the same)
The surrounding talent isn't the same AMONG OTHER THINGS which I've repeated endlessly since the KState game.

So if you know the comparison is apples and oranges, why ****ing bring it up at all?

It's not like I'm doing nothing but talk about Geno Smith on this forum. I keep all my discussion to my own thread unless he comes up in another thread about drafted QBs. I know you're sick of me and others deep throating him, but back off.

DJ's left nut 10-24-2012 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9045916)
I know you're a pretty good football poster, but Jesus Christ. In your attempts to keep the debate honest and interesting, you sometimes say shit that goes full BlackBob

Never go full BlackBob.

Chiefnj2 10-24-2012 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9045946)
1. I never said he was better than RGIII. I said he had a better arm than RGIII, but lacked the same athleticism.

2. The rest of your post doesn't matter. You included this cute little disclaimer when you posted those stats:



The surrounding talent isn't the same AMONG OTHER THINGS which I've repeated endlessly since the KState game.

So if you know the comparison is apples and oranges, why ****ing bring it up at all?

It's not like I'm doing nothing but talk about Geno Smith on this forum. I keep all my discussion to my own thread unless he comes up in another thread about drafted QBs. I know you're sick of me and others deep throating him, but back off.

Comparing QB's against common opponents is a common way people attempt to evaluate players and discuss them. In fact, you and others have used Smith's performance in 2011 against LSU to show how good he is. People have argued he played better against LSU than almost all other QB's.

He's a good prospect. I don't see why people become so sensitive when someone questions a draft prospect.

mdchiefsfan 10-24-2012 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 9045768)
That's interesting. Tyler Wilson in my book isn't up there yet with Geno (my 1st choice) but of the 3, if I'm being honest, I think he has the biggest arm.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=8329628 I mean watch the zip on some of these throws.

Next to Tyler Bray, who isn't NFL ready, I don't know if I've see another guy with the cannon as big as Wilsons.

Just speaking purely on arm strength.

Good lord thats a fast release

htismaqe 10-24-2012 02:28 PM

My only question about Wilson is his leadership. The history of Petrino QBs isn't great...

RealSNR 10-24-2012 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9045966)
Comparing QB's against common opponents is a common way people attempt to evaluate players and discuss them. In fact, you and others have used Smith's performance in 2011 against LSU to show how good he is. People have argued he played better against LSU than almost all other QB's.

He's a good prospect. I don't see why people become so sensitive when someone questions a draft prospect.

The Talking Can brought up Ben Roethlisberger for Miami, OH who didn't just struggle, but flat out SUCKED whenever he played teams from outside his little piddleshit conference. Threw 4 INTs against Iowa his senior year and his team got blown out.

Well, gee... Big 10 QBs Jeff Smoker and Jim Sorgi (or whoever the hell you want to use) had far better games against Iowa... even THEY were able to at least find some respectability against those tough ol' Hawkeyes.

You and I both agree that Landry Jones is dogshit. He may as well be Jeff Smoker or Jim Sorgi.

You can't just acknowledge a pretty significant smudge on your data analysis and then still not factor it into your conclusion. Your little "food for thought" was cute and all, but I think even Geno's detractors will agree that it's worthless.

Mr_Tomahawk 10-24-2012 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9045984)
My only question about Wilson is his leadership. The history of Petrino QBs isn't great...

Blah blah blah history of WV qb blah blah pat white blah blah

DJ's left nut 10-24-2012 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9045988)
Blah blah blah history of WV qb blah blah pat white blah blah

So the history of quarterbacks that played in a collegiate program under that has employed numerous coaches in its history is analogous to the history of quarterbacks that were taught by a particular coach under a particular scheme how again?

DJ's left nut 10-24-2012 02:37 PM

P.S. I'll feed you the proper answer here - two words: Jeff Tedford.

After Dilfer, Carr, Smith, Harrington and Boller, teams were a little wary of taking the next big Tedford pupil. Unfortunately for them, Aaron Rodgers was not Dilfer, Carr, Smith, Harrington or Boller.

Use that next time. It's a much better point than the one you made.

CoMoChief 10-24-2012 02:37 PM

Good thing we finally have a thread that's addressing this issue!!!


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