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OnTheWarpath15 10-30-2012 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9066824)
All the constant discussion about CBs is the most wasted bandwidth on this forum anymore. CBs are overrated. Find pass rushers.

There are teams that make it to the Super Bowl on an almost yearly basis with worse CBs than the Chiefs. Most people couldn't name the CBs on most recent championship teams, except for Charles Woodson, and even he missed half of the Super Bowl injured. This is becoming almost as arcane as saying you need a great RB to win. The teams that win rush the passer the best.
21st in the league in sacks.

Meanwhile, I'll wait patiently for someone to blame RAC for the fact that 29 other NFL players have more sacks than Tamba Hali.

Hammock Parties 10-30-2012 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9066810)
. Watch Seattle's defense. You have 11 guys playing through every whistle, outhustling the offense, and beating up offensive lines. That is the kind of defense we should be playing. Our defense gives up in the second quarter and nobody plays with any discipline because nobody is doing their job.
Dude, Seattle's defense has a bunch of really good cover guys and great pass rushers. A bunch of 'em.

They're built to attack the passing game.

What do we have? Two pass rushers and one corner. And a brokedick safety.

WV 10-30-2012 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9066836)
I don't want solid. I want elite.

This team isn't good enough to win a SB, even with Brady.

Brady would be screaming his ****ing head off at Jon Baldwin and demanding better receivers.
You've been on point a fair amount lately, but this is laugable. Don't you recall the WR corp that Brady has won SB's with? Bowe, Breaston, Baldwin and yes even McCluster are better than any of those as a group.

chiefzilla1501 10-30-2012 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9066836)
I don't want solid. I want elite.

This team isn't good enough to win a SB, even with Brady.

Brady would be screaming his ****ing head off at Jon Baldwin and demanding better receivers.
That's a fair statement, but I would argue a lot of these players turn from solid to very good with a coaching / QB change.

The good news is that the next GM gets a team with a solid foundation and a nice cap to work with. I don't think it takes long at all for a GM to turn this team into a deep playoff contender. I think that GM could do it in one offseason.

BlackHelicopters 10-30-2012 05:36 PM
Soren Petro and Adam Teicher. Journalists.

Hammock Parties 10-30-2012 05:37 PM
Wrong. Baldwin and McCluster are trash. Breaston is outta here.

Deion Branch is better than Baldwin and McCluster, and it's not even close.

OnTheWarpath15 10-30-2012 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9066830)
Our o-line looked elite behind Orton. Asamoah, Hudson, and Winston are three solid moves. And Jeff Allen is still a rookie playing mostly out of position.

Our o-line has rated mostly well. You can't blame an o-line for not playing nails behind a QB so bad that nobody guards anything past 10 yards. Nor can you blame them for blowing blocks when the QB is too dumb to check into a blitz pickup in his pre-snap reads.

A real QB makes this offensive line very good.
Elite?

You live in a ****ing fantasy world.

Then again, you think the entire roster is "solid" outside the QB position.

The reasoning behind 1-6 is a helluva lot more than the QB, folks. And that's coming from the President of the **** Matt Cassel Fan Club.

chiefzilla1501 10-30-2012 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9066846)
Dude, Seattle's defense has a bunch of really good cover guys and great pass rushers. A bunch of 'em.

They're built to attack the passing game.

What do we have? Two pass rushers and one corner. And a brokedick safety.
That's BS. DJ is a pro bowl calibre player when he plays with his head on straight. Our d-line wasn't elite, but they were doing their jobs. They're not anymore. They're playing passive and lazy. We have enough pieces to be a very good defense -- you take Haley's 2011 defense and add in Berry and assume Poe turns into a player, and that's an elite defense.

WV 10-30-2012 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9066853)
Wrong. Baldwin and McCluster are trash. Breaston is outta here.

Deion Branch is better than Baldwin and McCluster, and it's not even close.
Come on? How good did Deion Branch look in Seattle without TB?

I'm with you on a lot of this, but you're off base with this.

Mr. Flopnuts 10-30-2012 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9066854)
Elite?

You live in a ****ing fantasy world.

Then again, you think the entire roster is "solid" outside the QB position.

The reasoning behind 1-6 is a helluva lot more than the QB, folks. And that's coming from the President of the **** Matt Cassel Fan Club.
As the President of the **** Matt Cassel Fan Club, I AGREE with this message.

Hammock Parties 10-30-2012 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9066855)
We have enough pieces to be a very good defense
The whole defensive line needs an overhaul. None of these guys can get up the field. They're fire hydrants. Maybe Poe can stay, everyone else is garbage if we dump the 2-gap.

Do I really need to scream my head off again about the secondary? We have one good CB on this team. ONE.

Hammock Parties 10-30-2012 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by WV (Post 9066858)
Come on? How good did Deion Branch look in Seattle without TB?

I'm with you on a lot of this, but you're off base with this.
He had 725 yards his first season there.

Jon Baldwin will never have 600 yards in an NFL season. Write it down.

DaneMcCloud 10-30-2012 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9066855)
That's BS. DJ is a pro bowl calibre player when he plays with his head on straight.
Derrick Johnson has maybe two good seasons left. He's hardly a guy I'd tout as being anything special, especially given that he's really only had one above average season.

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9066855)
Our d-line wasn't elite, but they were doing their jobs. They're not anymore. They're playing passive and lazy. We have enough pieces to be a very good defense
Outside of Poe and possibly Powe, every one of these mother****ers can hit the road. They're not even AVERAGE.


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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9066855)
-- you take Haley's 2011 defense and add in Berry and assume Poe turns into a player, and that's an elite defense.
LMAO

Haley's defense? Haley's defense?

ROFL

L.A. Chieffan 10-30-2012 05:42 PM
****ing ingenious. You mean if the guys you use to replace the guys you lost arent as good, then your team will be worse? WOW, what ****ing enlightment! This dude should patent this awesome theory!

OnTheWarpath15 10-30-2012 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9066868)
Derrick Johnson has maybe two good seasons left. He's hardly a guy I'd tout as being anything special, especially given that he's really only had one above average season.



Outside of Poe and possibly Powe, every one of these mother****ers can hit the road. They're not even AVERAGE.




LMAO

Haley's defense? Haley's defense?

ROFL
Seriously.

I'm glad I picked today to stick my head in and check things out. I needed a laugh.


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