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Sorter 07-01-2013 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9787595)
Tell Brian Urlacher who you are?

I'm too lazy to try and post it from my phone but you should look up what bas thinks about lions. A quick Google search should do it.

CrazyPhuD 07-01-2013 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 9787556)
okay, apparently the guy yelled something at the cops too.

But does that make it right?

Can the cops not just ignore it? Is it a crime to butthurt the cops? I guess it is.

Honestly I don't know if what the cops did prior to the dog getting involved was right. But you have to admit the guy was acting weird. So if he stood on the corner and just video tapped that's not unusual but him walking back and forth to the back of the cop cars to film, that's not just a bit odd.

It's dangerous, he's getting fairly close to what has to be a tense scene(i.e. the whole armored car being there) and you don't know why he's moving CLOSER to the scene. Normal people are going to stay away(because they don't want to get shot if something goes down).

For the dude to get closer to the scene is not normal. Cops I'm sure wondered what the hell he was doing and it appears he didn't help himself. Shitty situation, but the old rule applies if the cops are rolling with the tactical unit stay the **** away. Situation will be tense and the cops already feel threatened. You don't add to the tension by approaching a tense scene.

Really shitty deal all around but it's hard to say the cops were really that malicious here. Tense situation that went wrong for everyone.

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-01-2013 11:15 PM

Cops should be paid far more than what they are, but they need years of training and should have to pass a very high bar of qualifications.

It's not a surprise we have so many issues with cops given how often they dredge for hires.

Bugeater 07-01-2013 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9787599)
Once again, if the police didn't want people that close, they have police tape just for that specific purpose.

Or tell people, like the two cops on the sidewalk most likely were, to stay the hell back. Or perhaps they thought that maybe people would have some common ****ing sense and not approach a scene like that.

The guy was being stupid, plain and simple.

Bugeater 07-01-2013 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD (Post 9787607)
Honestly I don't know if what the cops did prior to the dog getting involved was right. But you have to admit the guy was acting weird. So if he stood on the corner and just video tapped that's not unusual but him walking back and forth to the back of the cop cars to film, that's not just a bit odd.

It's dangerous, he's getting fairly close to what has to be a tense scene(i.e. the whole armored car being there) and you don't know why he's moving CLOSER to the scene. Normal people are going to stay away(because they don't want to get shot if something goes down).

For the dude to get closer to the scene is not normal. Cops I'm sure wondered what the hell he was doing and it appears he didn't help himself. Shitty situation, but the old rule applies if the cops are rolling with the tactical unit stay the **** away. Situation will be tense and the cops already feel threatened. You don't add to the tension by approaching a tense scene.

Really shitty deal all around but it's hard to say the cops were really that malicious here. Tense situation that went wrong for everyone.

Just Passin' By will be along shortly to inform you that you are an idiot.

Just Passin' By 07-01-2013 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9787586)
Well then please answer my question Mr. Non-idiot. What purpose was there for him to be approaching a potentially dangerous situation and filming it?

If the asshole got shot by some stray gunfire, then you'd be blaming the police for that as well.

There doesn't need to be a purpose that's satisfactory to some internet poster who goes by the screen name Bugeater. If his actions were legal, there's no justification for his arrest.

Since it's not illegal to film the police, it's not illegal to yell at the police, and he didn't cross any erected police barriers, what was his crime?

Prison Bitch 07-01-2013 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9787608)
Cops should be paid far more than what they are, but they need years of training and should have to pass a very high bar of qualifications.

It's not a surprise we have so many issues with cops given how often they dredge for hires.

Yeah, we know your feelings on "underpaid" fellow government employees.

thebrad84 07-01-2013 11:22 PM

http://www.dailybreeze.com/news/ci_2...g-arrest-owner

There's the full story as to what the poor, innocent man was doing prior to getting "arrested for no reason." Dude is a straight up, lawsuit chasing, ****tard. The only thing that's a shame about this deal is that he wasn't the one getting shot instead of the poor dog.

Bugeater 07-01-2013 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 9787612)
There doesn't need to be a purpose that's satisfactory to some internet poster who goes by the screen name Bugeater. If his actions were legal, there's no justification for his arrest.

Since it's not illegal to film the police, it's not illegal to yell at the police, and he didn't cross any erected police barriers, what was his crime?

I don't know, perhaps you should direct that question to the cops that arrested him. All I know is what I see in the video, and that's a dumbass who willingly put himself in a bad situation, and not surprisingly, had it end badly.

If you're too thick-headed to see that, then I don't know what else to say.

Sorter 07-01-2013 11:23 PM

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that the majority of the officers in the film appear to be armed with MP5 variants, which iirc aren't standard issue for regular police but are for SWAT.

CrazyPhuD 07-01-2013 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 9787597)
Why couldn't they have sprayed it or tazed it first? Pulling out the pistol is easy mode.

The dog was being a good dog. Protecting his owner from what he perceived as bad guys. The dog just sort of jumped at the cop. I mean, even hit it with your stick

Why should killing be the first option?

Tazing probably wouldn't work. You have one shot that's it, hitting a smallish rapidly moving target is no sure thing and if you miss you can't grab your gun before the dog is on top of you at that range(and the other cops can't shoot once the dog is on you because of the risk of hitting you). If they were further away maybe. One other bit about tazers a lot of cops aren't equipped with them because there's always the risk in the heat of the moment that instead of grabbing the taser you grab your gun thinking its your taser. Tazers can be less safe oddly.

I'm not sure about the pepper spray but I'd guess that's in an inconvenient place on their belts. If you think about most uses for pepper spray it's not for quick reaction. In quick moments training and muscle memory take over and I'm sure they aren't trained for fast pepper spray response.

If they had led with the pepper spray at start maybe, but you can see the guy trying to get the leash at the start. Maybe that we his bad choice he should have just sprayed him to begin with. But I think it's clear he didn't approach the dog with the intent to shoot. He shot when it was too close and risky to do much else.

As to batoning the dog, two things...first you have to get the baton out fast again it's not something that is designed for a quick draw. Second I'd wager that at the distance the dog was at and it's size, you hit it with the billy club and you're just going to piss it off.

Mostly likely it got too close and he had to react quickly, training and muscle memory took over and that's to draw and fire.

Bugeater 07-01-2013 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by thebrad84 (Post 9787615)
http://www.dailybreeze.com/news/ci_2...g-arrest-owner

There's the full story as to what the poor, innocent man was doing prior to getting "arrested for no reason." Dude is a straight up, lawsuit chasing, ****tard. The only thing that's a shame about this deal is that he wasn't the one getting shot instead of the poor dog.

Welllllll....that's interesting. Apparently interfering with police business isn't a crime where ever Just Passin' By comes from.

Fritz88 07-01-2013 11:31 PM

The dog jumped at the cop, it's a Rotweiller. It could eat your face in one bite.

The dog owner is to blame. The cop did nothing wrong imo.
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Just Passin' By 07-01-2013 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9787622)
Welllllll....that's interesting. Apparently interfering with police business isn't a crime where ever Just Passin' By comes from.

Interfering with police business? He had a radio on. The cops are claiming that they were arresting a man, and shot his dog, because they thought his car radio was too loud. That's the same car radio that wasn't too loud on the video we got from the other party.

Bugeater 07-01-2013 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 9787627)
Interfering with police business? He had a radio on.

Yeah...and I'm the idiot here...


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